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31 July 2009 ~ 86 Comments

BGLH interview with Clifton Green


Last week we were all captivated by the images in the Atlanta Journal Constitution of a white dad — Clifton Green — who learned to take care of his adopted Ethiopian daughter’s hair. (Click this link for the AJC slideshow: http://projects.ajc.com/gallery/view/living/braids/) I was so amazed that I tracked Clifton down and asked if he would do a BGLH interview. He agreed! Clifton is a professor at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. He has shared his personal photos of him and his daughter, Miriam. He did all the styles you see on his baby girl!






The entire family

Clifton: Let me first speak as a white adoptive parent of a black child. We know that love alone is not enough to raise our daughter. She will have experiences as a black person that we can’t relate to as white parents, and we need to reach out to the black community to help us raise our daughter into a woman that is proud of her culture and heritage. We live in Atlanta, and we have black friends in our lives and go to a church that is roughly half black, but we didn’t anticipate the support we’ve received from the online community. It’s been really nice.

BGLH: First off, we thought it was cute that you were using a fork. I’m assuming it doubled as a comb?
Clifton
: I used to use a fork to make Miriam’s parts. The rat tail comb I had at first wasn’t very pointy and I was more happy with the fork. I thought it made nice, sharp parts. I have a better rat tail comb now and I’ve gotten used to it so I’ve done away with the fork.

BGLH: How often do you do your daughter’s hair? And how long does it take?
Clifton
: On average we wash her hair every 10 days, but sometimes it’s once a week or every two weeks depending on what we’ve done that week (like playing in the pool or the sand box). I often re-do the braids or twists during the week depending on how they’re looking (smaller braids last longer) .

BGLH: Where/how did you learn how to take care of her hair? Why did you learn to take care of her hair?
Clifton
: We’ve always had black babysitters, and I loved it when Miriam’s hair started getting long enough for our babysitter to braid or twist (Miriam came home at 1 year old with very little hair). Our babysitter moved away and our new sitter wasn’t comfortable doing hair, and I missed how nice Miriam’s hair looked. My wife and I started doing it but gradually over time it became my thing, at least partially because we also had a baby boy that my wife was breastfeeding. We learned from books like “It’s All Good Hair,” from other moms, and of course practice which I’m still doing. Our goal has always been to help her fit in among other black girls and to feel good about her hair. I’m not an expert, and we’re always open to advice and suggestions :)

BGLH: Emotionally, how was the process of learning to take care of her hair? Was it ever frustrating or discouraged? Or was it a joy?
Clifton
: Learning about hair care and styles has been a joy. Sometimes the doing can be frustrating :) I would say the worst has been my attempt at cornrows. They look like they’re two weeks old as soon as I do them, and when I spend an hour or longer on her hair I want it to look perfect. So I haven’t tried them for awhile.

BGLH: If you could describe your daughters afro textured hair in three words, what would they be?
Clifton
: Curly, coily, bouncy.

BGLH: I’m assuming you’ve been around caucasian hair all your life. This may be a kind of silly question, but what to you, is the most striking difference between the texture of your daughters hair, and the hair you were used to?
Clifton
: I would say perhaps the most striking difference is how dry her hair can get. In my experience, white people’s hair tends to get oily between washings; with Miriam her hair dries out instead.

BGLH: Do you find anything uniquely beautiful about afro-textured hair?
Clifton
: My favorite is the way it looks with two strand twists. It seems uniquely black and beautiful to me.

BGLH: Do you think the care you take in nurturing your daughter’s hair is having an effect on her self image? If so, in what way?
Clifton
: Miriam is 5. Right now I think we’re laying the groundwork for when she’s older and starts to think about her identity as a woman of color and what that means.

BGLH: And finally, I saw you have a young son. What does he think of his big sister’s hair :)
Clifton
: Our non-adopted son is 4, and although we have discussions about skin color (they refer to it as brown skin and yellow skin), we haven’t talked much hair specifically. Although he says it’s beautiful sometimes, right now I would say he loves Miriam’s hair mainly because he gets to watch TV when I fix it. He also likes for Miriam to fix his hair with her barrettes and hair balls, and he’ll sit still to let her do that. Our 2 year old son also enjoys Miriam’s hair stylings. We’re on the wait list to adopt again from Ethiopia (another girl). So I’ll have more chances to practice my skills, and hopefully the girls can appreciate each others hair and practice styling on each other as they grow up.

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86 Responses to “BGLH interview with Clifton Green”

  1. Anonymous 31 July 2009 at 4:11 am Permalink

    Awwww. Cute story!

  2. Anonymous 31 July 2009 at 4:33 am Permalink

    So great…aww i'm trying not to cry.

  3. ...:::BEAUTIFUL...BROWN...SKIN:::... Bianca 31 July 2009 at 4:53 am Permalink

    This was a truly beautiful and touching story. I really commend him for sharing his story and parenting a black child. I absolutely love this post!!

  4. Vixen 31 July 2009 at 5:04 am Permalink

    So beautiful! I think this is the most heartwarming thing I've ever read on this blog.

  5. Sheila 31 July 2009 at 5:08 am Permalink

    Leila, you have done it again! Wonderful interview-I think he is doing a fantastic job with his daughter's hair. Its refreshing to read about his approach in regards to wanting Miriam to identify with her culture.

  6. Moni 31 July 2009 at 5:12 am Permalink

    I love this interview! I was going to email you and suggest you contact Professor Green for an interview, but obviously you're two steps ahead of me! She's a very lucky girl to grow up with parents who will teach her to love her beautiful natural hair.

  7. rox 31 July 2009 at 5:19 am Permalink

    I love this interview! I really like that Mr Green is doing what he can for his adorable daughter to know where she comes from culturally. I wish him all the luck in his wait for the upcoming adoption!

  8. soukho 31 July 2009 at 5:37 am Permalink

    Waw, this is such a nice story, I am new on your blog and I am loving it, I went natural a few weeks back so I am going to read more posts of yours. Best wishes.

  9. Olivia 31 July 2009 at 5:41 am Permalink

    He seems like a very caring, positive man. I hope the best for his family! I am glad he is so involved with his daughter's hair and does not see it as a burden, but a beautiful gift.

    p.s. i love her little twists, she's beautiful!

  10. Milan 31 July 2009 at 6:13 am Permalink

    Awww, what a wonderful interview! I luv that they learned how to care for and style their adopted daughter's hair. You go man!

    I also luv the father's description of her hair. More positive than what some black people would say about their own children's hair.

  11. Brie 31 July 2009 at 7:21 am Permalink

    I thought the AJC story was great but this interview just takes the cake! It is really a lovely story and I'm sure Miriam, when she gets older, will truly appreciate everything her father did to make sure that she always looked her best, and therefore, felt her best.

  12. Jadeite 31 July 2009 at 8:00 am Permalink

    This is such a great story. I love that he's really trying, and that her hair is on point.
    This goes to show that many more white parents of black and biracial children (that means you, lady on Tyra's :Good Hair Bad Hair") can adapt to taking care of our little brown babies. <3

  13. SA 31 July 2009 at 8:02 am Permalink

    Awww! I read the story when it first came out in the AJC and it's still one of the sweetest things I've ever read. I just want to give them all a big hug. :)

  14. yours truly 31 July 2009 at 8:41 am Permalink

    swear i am so proud of him for this interview. she's a beautiful little miss. and he is the poster guy for good parents everywhere. love love love his mindset on parenting, especially when it comes to children of colour.

  15. Sugabelly 31 July 2009 at 9:25 am Permalink

    Too. Much. Cuteness.

    Can't. Breathe.

    Death by Cuteness Overload strikes again.

  16. Jc 31 July 2009 at 11:06 am Permalink

    Lovely. I think that my parents had a huge role in my view of natural hair. I always saw my hair texture as normal and myself as beautiful.

    There are so many people who have a fractured relationship with their hair, we need more parents like my own and like this gentleman so that many more black women will not have to apologise for their hair texture.

  17. jenteel 31 July 2009 at 11:23 am Permalink

    i'm so in love with this whole situation! <3 <3 <3 leila, you killed this one!

    @ clifton green:
    thank you to you and your wife for opening up your home and hearts to the prospect of adoption and for your efforts in fostering a positive self-image for your daughter. little girls of all cultural backgrounds need more of this. your children are very blessed to have so much love in their home.

  18. Chai 31 July 2009 at 11:31 am Permalink

    still not tired of hearing this story! A beautiful young girl with such loving parents is really a great thing to see…which is why I think we need more…lol! Parents who make a conscious effort to groom and take care of their daughter's/son's hair all so they can feel validated and worthy…too sweet;-)!

  19. Anonymous 31 July 2009 at 1:04 pm Permalink

    What an amazing story! I am so touched! She is absolutely beautiful! I think it is great that he and his family are making it a point to keep her involved with other people of her race so that she will also be informed about her own culture. Wonderful, wonderful!

  20. cjbrownsc 31 July 2009 at 1:10 pm Permalink

    This interview is one of the best that I've read in a long time! This father, and family, have truly embraced Miriam and I can almost feel the love when he says anything about her. Any reference that he made to her hair were positive and beautiful. I love the Greens for that.
    We've all seen the infamous YT of the mother cursing and abusing her young daughter while trying to comb her hair. I wish that mother would find this blog and realize that her way is absolutely the WRONG way and that she is abusing her daughter.
    Bravo BGLH!!

  21. Skibies 31 July 2009 at 1:24 pm Permalink

    I was so impressed when I saw this story, I appreciate him not putting a relaxer in it but doing research. This is what my mom did because it was the norm and now I wish I never had it. I think he is a role model and since his has a little publicity, he needs to head over to Brad and Angelina's house. Angelina wants a doll that has hair like her daughters but her daughter would love her hair if it looked liked this little girl's. I want hair like this little girl's and she is only five. This is a inspirational story.

  22. medinaGreen 31 July 2009 at 3:18 pm Permalink

    Oh it was such a delight reading this story. It is wonderful to see the father not only take care but take interest in his daughters hair and the life she leads now and will lead as a Black/African-American women in this world. Not to mention is two-strand twist look A-MA-ZING!!! he should open a shop lol.

  23. Anonymous 31 July 2009 at 3:32 pm Permalink

    This is truly an amazing story…but in contrast there is a video circulating online which presents a case of what some would deem child abuse in which a black mother using expletive language is harshly combing her daughter's natural hair. When you have these two stories in mind..one has to wonder what will it take to educate some parents on how to care for their daughter's natural hair? Obviously, as in the case of this professor, one must be willing to learn and accept the natural aspects of the child (specifically the hair and its texture among other things). It would be interesting to see bglh do a cover on that story(the one with the woman combing her daughter's hair) back to back with this current one. but overall I applaude his fervor in promoting his daughter's love for self and all things beautiful and brown

  24. Princess Nasa* 31 July 2009 at 3:47 pm Permalink

    Wow. Im in awe with this interview I am so happy that the child is blessed to have parents like Professor Green. I'm just so speechless and happy right now. Wow.

  25. TheDailey 31 July 2009 at 3:52 pm Permalink

    this is an amazing story :] i love that they want her to have knowledge of her background and to be proud of it!
    wonderful parents :]

  26. danniebella 31 July 2009 at 3:58 pm Permalink

    Lovely interview.

  27. Steph 31 July 2009 at 3:58 pm Permalink

    BEAUTIFUL!! and lol @ the fork thing…I was slightly confused at first when I saw it. Great interview.

  28. Patricia Grannum 31 July 2009 at 4:17 pm Permalink

    wow, this is such a great idea!I really enjoyed the interview. If a white man can learn to take care of his black daughter's hair why are black mothers still perming thir daughter's hair at 3 yrs old..just sayin..

    http://womanofcolour.blogspot.com

  29. Angelyca 31 July 2009 at 4:36 pm Permalink

    "one has to wonder what will it take to educate some parents on how to care for their daughter's natural hair? Obviously, as in the case of this professor, one must be willing to learn and accept the natural aspects of the child (specifically the hair and its texture among other things)"

    So true! I think that this is issue with most parents that don't want to learn how to do natural hair. It takes time to learn something that they probably never knew especially if they've been relaxed all their life.

    I love this interview, I wish that my mother would have had the patience for my natural hair (and my sisters) instead of slapping on a relaxer to make it "manageable"

  30. Jc 31 July 2009 at 4:40 pm Permalink

    @anon – I have seen that video and it is quite traumatising.

    I have to say that I wouldn't like to see it featured on BGLH following this piece because undoubtedly comparisons on a race level would be made that wouldn't necessarily be true.

    I would love to see more positive examples instead. Perhaps like the youtube 'family going natural' or other fotkis where parents feature their children.

    I think showing positive examples is the way forward.

  31. augusta 31 July 2009 at 5:44 pm Permalink

    great job, one of the best interviews yet!

    like patrica said before me, it makes you wonder why some black women are still relying on the box perm to do their daughters hair.

  32. Krystal (aka Pirouette) 31 July 2009 at 6:04 pm Permalink

    This was such a wonderful interview. It's great to hear his perspective!

  33. Ivy 31 July 2009 at 6:23 pm Permalink

    cornrows are hard for many lol. maybe he should try parting them smaller if he wants them to be neater. I think that twists last longer and look cuter anyway, but if he wanted to try again that's be my tip.

    this whole family is so beautiful! yay!

  34. Broadbandette 31 July 2009 at 6:33 pm Permalink

    Bravo, BGLH! Fantastic interview and touching story.

  35. Black girl with long hair 31 July 2009 at 7:21 pm Permalink

    @ Jc… I agree with you 100%! I watched that video, of the mom abusing her daughter's hair, and I don't want it on BGLH. I do feel that positivity is the way forward. We already know a lot of black people have issues with their hair. I'd rather discuss solutions.

    And you're also right that the point of this story IS NOT to say that white people love afro textured hair more than black people do (Claire from the Fashion Bomb just came on BGLH with strong evidence that that is NOT the case on a macro level!)

    I honestly don't buy the mentality that seeking white people's acceptance of our hair is somehow the way forward. It isn't.

    BLACK PEOPLE need to learn to accept THEIR OWN HAIR. THAT is the way forward!

    This is simply a touching and powerful story. If we could stay away from the race scripts (white people=nice, black people=bad), that would be great. Let's just appreciate the fatherly love this man has shown his daughter.

  36. Brandy B. Wine 31 July 2009 at 7:53 pm Permalink

    Love it. This is a great story.
    I'm so happy you did this interview. Her hair looks awesome. I think he does a good job.

  37. Coily Crowns 31 July 2009 at 7:59 pm Permalink

    Love it! Great interview. Thanks for tracking him down. When I initially heard this story, I definitely wanted more. Good one L.

  38. CurlyKye 31 July 2009 at 8:28 pm Permalink

    Simply put…LOVE LOVE LOVE it!

  39. Ms. Crown of Hair 31 July 2009 at 8:47 pm Permalink

    This is such a lovely story! The fact that he took the time to learn how to care for her hair in its natural state shows how much he loves her and wants her to love and appreciate the way God made her!
    I want the father of my children to learn how to do the same, regardless of his ethnicity!

  40. Jai 31 July 2009 at 10:10 pm Permalink

    Another great interview and such a touching story too. You can feel the love from the interview!!!!

  41. Izzy 31 July 2009 at 10:23 pm Permalink

    Leila, u friggin' rock! I love the subject matter. I applaud the families openness and willingness to learn. I may steal that fork idea, chile! My daughter's texture looks similar to his daughter's. All around feel good story.

  42. Courtney 31 July 2009 at 10:50 pm Permalink

    This is simply amazing. I am so happy that these parents are embracing their child for who she is, while laying the groundwork for who she is to become: a strong, grounded, and proud black woman. Kudos to these parents. I will also say that this inspires me for my own hair and my own future children. This story has made me realize that caring for natural, textured black hair is possible for everyone, so I should have no excuse!

  43. Da Jadedpoet 31 July 2009 at 11:14 pm Permalink

    Its very heart-warming to see how love, patience and great care is shown physically in this little girls hair from her father's hands.

    Its so odd I never would have thought deeply about seeing something like this until I went natural and understood the stigma people had behind natural hair. I was natural as a young teen and had hair down the middle of my back and after getting out of braids only had people call my hair unmanageable and watched perm after perm how my hair shrivel up to my shoulders.

    I didn't hate natural hair *just perms for how they hurt my scalp* but I never bothered with it I saw it as to much work because I was taught that. Honestly his race isn't the big tear jerker for me, its the fact that a man is taking the time to do and learn his daughter's hair. He's looked it up and wants his little girl to KNOW there is nothing wrong with her or her hair. Damn…

    Tell him he can adopt me LMAO!!

  44. Aisha 31 July 2009 at 11:16 pm Permalink

    Clifton Green, you rock!

  45. honeysmoke 31 July 2009 at 11:23 pm Permalink

    my goodness. he sure does get it. you can tell he and his wife gave a lot of thought to adopting their daughter.

  46. Naturally Beautiful 31 July 2009 at 11:25 pm Permalink

    Thank you for a sweet and beautiful story.

  47. Mel 31 July 2009 at 11:46 pm Permalink

    Very nice interview. It seems like he and his wife are doing a fantastic job raising Miriam (and doing her hair)!

  48. EclecticJam 1 August 2009 at 3:29 am Permalink

    I LOved it!!! such a good story!!

  49. Missy Harris 1 August 2009 at 3:41 am Permalink

    I am a Black, Jamaican woman, and I shared the original article with my friends and family when it first appeared in the AJC…even my male friends were touched.

    Most of the women who read it were moved to tears (including me). I wish this family all the blessing in the world. It just goes to show that sensitivity to another person's culture is what is important when our lives intermingle.

    It's ironic that this little Ethiopian girl is going to have better Hair (and I sure all-round) self-esteem than many little girls who have grown up in their own families of African descent.

    A lovely follow up after watching that dreadful video of that woman with a weave beating and cursing her little girl with a brush while trying to style her hair.

    We have so far to go…but there's hope.

    Thanks for the follow up…we were all craving it :)

    Missy

  50. Jae 1 August 2009 at 3:48 am Permalink

    Aaawww, I loved that. Now if he could only teach me to do cornrows half as well as he does. Mine are horrendous, lol. But I wish more parents were like this. Good job!


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