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07 February 2010 ~ 179 Comments

Guest blogger post #1: Do natural women fit best with non-black men?

February 7 to 13 is BGLH’s second annual guest blogger week. I will be turning the mic over to BGLH readers to say what’s on their mind. Simon is our first guest blogger and the first dude to ever post on BGLH.

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Before I begin I must admit that growing up, I never found natural hair to be sexy or even appealing. Yes! I admit the self-hate. Like many other people of color, I had been brainwashed into believing that Western features were ideal yada yada yada you know the rest of the story. Suffice to say, my perceptions have clearly changed. I have nothing but the utmost respect for natural women not only because they are beautiful but because they are brave. In a society that idolizes only one definition of beauty, picking up that clipper to do the “big chop” must be the scariest thing in the world. Yet natural women do it and they overcome it and for that I tip off my hat to them. I find natural women to be incredibly sexy and unique.

I go to college in the Midwest and there aren’t exactly a lot of natural women in the Midwest. Everything is very generic and people go with what the crowd is wearing or doing. During winter break two years ago some friends and I went to New York City. On Christmas Eve, my friends and I were at this huge international party in Brooklyn. Most everyone at the party was white or Latino. All of a sudden I noticed a very beautiful, locked black girl sitting at a corner. She oozed so much confidence and there was a certain sophistication in the way she spoke. I approached her politely and said “hi”. We were the only two black people in the room. She replied unenthusiastically. Every time I tried to start a discussion with her, she would ignore me and walk away. Because of her abrasive attitude, I stopped trying to talk to her. When white guys approached her and introduced themselves, on the other hand, she was very polite and she would start conversations with them. I believe she left the party with one of the guys at some point. And unfortunately I have had several unfortunate experiences with natural women like this one.

A few months ago I decided that I was going to grow an afro. I know absolutely nothing about natural hair and hair products. I asked my sister for some tips (we live in different countries) and she told me to use Google and YouTube. I started my natural hair research online and I started to notice a trend. A lot of the female natural hair bloggers had white husbands and/or boyfriends. This got me thinking; do natural women prefer white men? Is that why I have been having bad experiences with natural women?

Months went by and my small afro started to grow. Something very strange started to happen. All my white friends became absolutely obsessed with my hair. They would grab it, squeeze it and try to experiment with it. Every time they saw it, they would shower me with compliments. They even voted my hair the “best hair” among everyone in our friend circle. To them natural hair is “curly hair”. They don’t make distinctions like “kinky” or this or that or whatever. My black friends, on the other hand, were appalled by the afro. They would call it “nappy” and say I should be ashamed to come to school with hair like that. I remember my fellow African/very good friend saying that “You look like the real African bushman. Go and cut that hair”.

This got me thinking; if natural women prefer white men is it because white men are more receptive to natural hair? Is it something else? Let me hear your honest opinions.

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Simon is 22 years old and a first year graduate student. You can read more from Simon at his blog http://a-boy-from-another-planet.blogspot.com/

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179 Responses to “Guest blogger post #1: Do natural women fit best with non-black men?”

  1. Didi 9 February 2010 at 12:08 pm Permalink

    I’ve also noticed some natural sisters dating white men, and I think you were on to something when you said they might be with white men because of the positive reactions they get from them compared to the negative reactions they get from some black men. But what still perturbs me is the fact that she totally shut you down despite the positive vibes you were sending her way. I don’t think the natural woman you met is necessarily an accurate representation of how most natural women act. That said, some young black males really do need to check themselves. From what I’ve seen (and I can only speak from personal experience), some young black men are overly obsessed with long, straight hair, and there is just so much more to beauty than that.

  2. AYITICHERIE 9 February 2010 at 5:23 pm Permalink

    HEY I COMMEND MY SISTERS FOR LOOKING FOR LOVE OUTSIDE THEIR RACE. BLACK MEN HAS DISRESPECTED AND IGNORED BLACK WOMEN (OF COURSE NOT ALL BLACK MEN, HOWEVER LET KEEP IT REAL A MAJORITY). ITS SO BAD THAT TMZ EVEN MENTIONED IT WHEN AT KHLOE KARDASHIAN’S WEDDING THE CALLED IT THE A SWIRL GANG BECAUSE ALL OF THE PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES (EXCEPT FOR ONLY 2) WERE WITH WHITE WOMEN. WE ARE NO LONGER THE ANGRY BLACK WOMEN BC WE HAVE MOVED ON AND WE ARE BEING LOVED, RESPECTED AND VALUED. DO NOT LOWER YOUR STANDARDS IN THE NAME OF BLACK LOVE BC BLACK MEN HAVE A PLETHORA OF SUCCESSFUL BLACK WOMEN TO CHOOSE FROM BUT THEY GO THE OTHER WAY. LASTLY I WILL NEVER FORGET ABOUT A BLOG THAT A BROTHER WROTE ON HOW HE FELL IN LOVE WITH A GIRL BECAUSE WHEN SHE TOOK A SHOWER HER HAIR JUST Laid DOWN UNDER THE WATER AND IT TURNED HIM ON!!!! REALLY HAIR TURNED YOU ON WOW! THANK GOD SISTERS ARE NOT JUST STANDING AROUND WHILE BLACK MEN ARE MOVING ON AND MARRYING OUTSIDE THEIR RACE. Oh AND I LOVE THE SITE INTERACIAL MARRIAGE MINDED SISTERS (I DONT THINK I SPELLED IT RIGHT, BUT GOOGLE IT). YOU WILL SEE SISTERS LIKE THE BEAUTIfUL KERRY WASHINGTON, HALLE BERRY, ROBERT Deniro’s wife,Wolf gang poks wife, ZOE SALDANA, EVE,NAOMI CAMPBELL, IMAN ALEX WEK AND PLENTY OTHER BLACK STARS WITH WHITE MEN. I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS SAVE IT FOR SOMEONE ELSE BUT AS BAD AS THE SISTER ALEK WEK IS…..A VERY SMALL PERCENT OF BROTHERS WOULD GIVE THAT BEAUTIFUL SISTER PLAY….WELL HER WHITE BOYFRIEND IS LOVING EVERY INCH OF HER AND REMINDS HER OF HER BEAUTY EVERY DAY (HER OWN WORDS “REMINDS ME HOW PRETTY I AM EVERY DAY”). CALL ME SELF HATE, CALL ME SELL OUT, I DONT CARE…cause I CALL ME HAPPY!!!!!!

  3. April 9 February 2010 at 6:23 pm Permalink

    You know I think it’s just that the white men made her feel beautiful in all her naturalness is all. Black really do tend to frown upon natural hair.

  4. PerleDesAntilles 9 February 2010 at 7:04 pm Permalink

    @ AyitiCherie- Well said!

  5. afrogirl 9 February 2010 at 8:52 pm Permalink

    To answer this blog’s title, I don’t think it’s so much a question of whether natural women *fit* best with non-black men but maybe it’s more a matter of personality types and open-mindedness. What I mean by this is that perhaps black women who would consider dating outside of their race also happen to be the same types of women that would feel confident enough with themselves to go against the grain and wear their hair natural. I mean, I fit this description–I’m a natural black woman and my husband is non-black (he’s mexican american), but when he and I met I was still relaxed. It wasn’t until about 4 years into our relationship that I made the decision to do my BC. So maybe it’s just my personality type.

  6. AYITICHERIE 9 February 2010 at 10:46 pm Permalink

    @ PerleDesAntilles

    Merci cherie

  7. Aisha 9 February 2010 at 11:57 pm Permalink

    Stacy said:
    “It is the unconditonal acceptance women gravitate towards not the color.”

    I think this one statement perfectly sums it all up.

  8. Afrika 10 February 2010 at 2:28 am Permalink

    “BLACK MEN HAS DISRESPECTED AND IGNORED BLACK WOMEN (OF COURSE NOT ALL BLACK MEN, HOWEVER LET KEEP IT REAL A MAJORITY).” – AyitiCherie

    Ayiticherie, blaming a majority of black men is not the best way to
    solve the problem of failed black relationships. It’s not like all black women are perfect too. I have met A LOT of black women who have attitude problems and are unbearable to live it. In my college, for example, a lot of black girls complain about “the lack of good black men” but yet when they meet a brother who has straight A grades, wears shirts and trousers and treats them with respect, they will call him gay. These are the same girls who would choose a young lil wayne over a young Obama in a hearbeat yet they are quick to criticize black men. I have had these experiences but I don’t walk around saying that a majority of black women are to be blamed for the failed state of black relationships. Finger-pointing and putting all the blame on one gender never really solves the problem.

  9. Kay 10 February 2010 at 12:30 pm Permalink

    I have had these experiences but I don’t walk around saying that a majority of black women are to be blamed for the failed state of black relationships. Finger-pointing and putting all the blame on one gender never really solves the problem.-Arika

    REALITY CHECK
    Black men are the reason for failed state of black relationships.
    We as black women need to realize that statistics. 41% of black women have never been married. You know why?? 21% of black men dont have HS diploma, 17% of black men dont have jobs and 8% are in jail. That leave us with 54% that are “available” now factor in the black men that date out there races. What are we left with as black women?!?! Look up the facts! Dateline did a segment on that LARGE number of single black women, that is where I got most of the facts from and I was shocked. We need to wake and not feel like we are being disloyal for dating out of race. That is the only way we will have a chance of finding men on our level. Most successful, educated black men dont date black women its not the 60′s anymore Black men dont stand by us. They like the mixed, spanish, white anything but black. And this is coming from a women that is with a caribbean successful,educated, black man with no kids. It was so hard to find him and if i wasnt with him I would have ended up with a white man.

  10. AYITICHERIE 10 February 2010 at 12:54 pm Permalink

    @ AFRIKA (RESPECTABLY)
    WOW……….AFRIKA….YOU DID NOT HELP YOUR POINT BY DOING THE EXACT SAME THING YOU ACCUSED ME OF…”ALOT OF BLACK WOMEN HAVE ATTITUDES AND ARE UNBEARABLE” …..SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE USING THAT FINGER TOO….YOU DID NOT MAKE MUCH OF A POINT WITH THAT ONE…YOU CANT POINT YOUR FINGER AT ME AND ARE GUILTY OF THE SAME THING..REALLY AFRIKA…THATS THE SAME REASON BLACK MEN CLAIM THEY DONT DATE BLACK WOMEN…AND ANOTHER THING, I HEAR YOU BUT YOU MUST BE YOUNG SISTER,,,BECAUSE ALL OF THE SISTERS I KNOW WANT A BARACK (AND MY SISTER AS WELL AS MYSELF ALL HOLD EITHER MASTERS OR Ed.Ds) THATS THE MAIN REASON FOR SISTERS FLEEING IN DROVES TO NON WHITE MAN BC NO ONE WANTS TO SETTLE FOR BS AND IN YOUR WORDS “LIL WAYNE TYPES”(3 BABY MAMAS HAVING, CAN NOT COMMUNICATE BEYOND “NA MEAN”, AND AGAIN LIKE I SAID BEFORE THIS IS NOT ALL BLACK MEN, WE ARE MORE SHOCKED WHEN A BROTHER DONT HAVE KIDS THEN ANYTHING ELSE). YOU ARE NOT REALLY CONVINCEING ME WITH YOUR REPLY. MOREOVER I AM NOT INTERESTED IN SOLVING ANYONES PROBLEMS, I WILL LEAVE THAT TO YOU…WHY IS IR DATING A PROBLEM….I AM JUST INTERSTED IN BEING RESPECTED AND HAPPY AND BROTHERS AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE ALWAYS SAYING THAT BLACK WOMEN HAVE BAD ATTITUDES BUT MY MAN (WHO IS NON BLACK)THINKS THAT I AM JUST A STRONG MINDED EDUCATED WOMEN THAT NEEDS A STRONG MAN AND THAT HE IS…..SO I WILL LEAVE ALL OF BLACK WOMEN BASHING TO YOU AND THE BROTHERS THAT USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE AND REASONING FOR DATING WHITE WOMEN AND I STAND BY MY COMMENT! BLACK WOMEN DONT SETTLE…YOU DATING OUTSIDE YOUR RACE IS NOT THE REASON FOR BLACK FAILED RELATIONSHIPS ,,,THE PROBLEM IS THE NUMBER OF BLACK MEN THAT ARE IN JAIL, THAT DO NOT GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL, THAT HAVE MULITPLE KIDS BY MULTIPLE WOMEN, AND THAT ARE GAY (AND I SAY THAT WITH RESPECT I DO NOT BELIEVE IN BASHING BASED ON SEXUALITY)THAT LEAVES A SMALL NUMBER OF PROFESSIONAL EDUCATED BLACK MEN AND A GOOD AMOUNT OF THOSE MEN DATE NON BLACK WOMEN (AND I NO LONGER GET UPSET BC I AM HAPPY TO SEE SISTERS JUST MOVING ON DOING THEIR THING) AND IF YOU ARE A LUCKY ENOUGH SISTER TO FIND ONE, I AM HAPPY FOR YOU BC THERE ARE MORE BLACK WOMEN IN AMERICIA THAN BLACK MEN (1.8 MILLION TO BE EXACT)I WOULD HAVE LOVED A BLACK MAN BUT I REFUSE REFUSE REFUSE TO SETTLE……IF IT WAS NOT FOR THESE SISTERS THAT JUST MOVED ON WE WOULD HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF SISTERS (MORE THAN THE 40%) THAT WOULD NOT REPRODUCE OR BE MARRIED AND THATS MORE OF A PROBLEM TO ME THAN INTERACIAL DATING…. SO ONCE AGAIN I STAND BY MY COMMENT!!!!!

  11. Loquacious 10 February 2010 at 5:24 pm Permalink

    “Amen” to Ayiticherie.

    It amazes me how a simple question about non-black men being more receptive to natural black hair evolves into the state of black relationships. To answer the question posed by the guest blogger, it depends. I do think some white men are more receptive to natural hair, but I think it may depend on what area of the country you are in.

    Now, here is my two cents regarding the dialogue on the state of black relationships:

    I agree with Ayiticherie whole heartedly. A woman should not have to settle. When I met my husband, I didn’t have children, I have a J.D. degree, my own car and my own place. I couldn’t find a black man that could say the same. But, I found the same in my husband, who is white. I didn’t marry my husband because he was receptive to natural hair. I married him because he is a gentleman and wasn’t afraid to court and woo me. Furthermore, he wasn’t afraid to “put a ring on it.” Couldn’t find that when trying to date black men.

    If black women continue to focus on color, then those same black women will end up spinsters. I realized that and began focusing on how I wanted to be treated and what the man had to offer. And stopped focusing on the color of his skin.

    As Shug said in “The Color Purple,” “I’s married now!” *lol*

  12. michelle 10 February 2010 at 6:46 pm Permalink

    i just think some natural women gravitate more towards whomever accepts it more…the kind of brothers who don’t like natural hair are usually the kind that the ladies want to stay away from anyway..so why be angry? lol

  13. Vacra 10 February 2010 at 8:50 pm Permalink

    I stopped dating black men after I realized that the ones in my community didn’t find me attractive because i’m not mixed, white, asian or latina. I would only get hit on in very disrespectful ways that usually pretained to the size of my boo-tay (lol). I’m also college educated and I have a ton of goals so that X’ed out many young black men around me as well, and they really didn’t like my TWA and guys I worked with would ask me all the time when I was going to get weaved up……..So I expanded my horizon and started dating Asian men and I love it. The gentlemen I dated had lots in common with me and never said anything to degrade me or my hair. One man I was dating loved massaging my scalp and told me he loved how much personality my hair has. My fiancee is black and korean and we share the same values and ethics and he has never expressed the need for me to change my hair or that my skin was too dark, he gushes over how beautiful our daughters will be and how proud he is to have me by his side. I think most black men have been caught up in this eurocentric culture worse than black women. A cousin of mine proclaimed on facebook how black women weren’t popular anymore and he has no use for their “burnt black asses, gimme something light and bright that I can see.” What the hell is that??!! when we have that ignorance coming from black men why in the hell should we want to wait around for that. On the other hand when too many brothas do this they spoil it for all the ones who truly love us because we start to think they are all the same so women we should at least hear what a guy has to say before writing him off…..i have no idea if I am making sense lol. Go with who you match with, who intrigues you, who loves you, who you love, who keeps you interested, who you can’t stand to be without…If that person happens to be another color then all I have to say is “haaaaay get it girl!!” lol.

  14. bunmi 11 February 2010 at 6:23 am Permalink

    I’m a UK graduate 09, and feel that there is too much emphasise on statistics, basing ur love life on this is not a good move and all the qualifications issue, is it really necessary? What I’m Tryna say is why u wait till your over 25 to find love, I’m surrounded by educated brothers who don’t have a car, house or pd, but that doesn’t mean there unworthy, in fact where equals, cos when ur in uni no1 expects this from you.
    People should find Love young and grow with it, I pushed my bf through uni and now that were both grads were focused on making a life, Exceling to the top in our choosen fields.

    To bring it back… i’ve been in a intra-racial relationship with my Malaysian-chinese boyfriend since 1st year. Why him? because he the only guy at that time that was brave enough to make a ‘come correct’ move to me. He respects my attitude toward culture and tells me straighten hair doesn’t look good on me, all about the fro.

    The motto, start young, work together & take control of your future.

  15. Stacy 11 February 2010 at 9:35 am Permalink

    @ Vacra…HEAR HEAR!
    Simon thank you for posting this article. This the most fun I have had on this blog. Very interesting perspectives.

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    Zoe was so sexy in Avatar…. I don’t know why Vanity Fair snubbed her.

  17. ayitilevekanpe 16 February 2010 at 12:04 am Permalink

    @ayiticherie toussaint just rolled over in his grave reading your comment. jan w ap kouri deye blan… smh

  18. Enny 17 February 2010 at 7:51 pm Permalink

    From a feminist stand point, I have to say this is not in any way the fault of black men. It’s us women that have brought this upon ourselves.

    The reason is, MEN DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING regarding what is beautiful on a woman, EXCEPT WE TELL THEM. This is especially true with hair! We have told men that relaxed hair is ‘cleaner’ and more ‘refined’ and that our natural hair is rough and tough. This is what they have been exposed to and know no different. However it remains our responsibility to stand up for our natural selves, including the hair.

    Accordingly, when women begin to do what’s best for them and stand by it, men will in turn respect them and even love them for it… Just like the saying goes, you cannot argue with success.

  19. Gege 25 February 2010 at 5:54 pm Permalink

    Why does it seem that black women and black men have become enemies instead of lovers? I am a natural black women and I date whoever I am interested in black, white, purple and green. I will admit that the black men that I have dated had issues with my hair despite it being natural when they met me but that is not to say that others won’t love it.

    I think that the young lady the author mentioned probably just didn’t like the game he was kicking. Most of the natural ladies that I know date black men. Most black women want to date black men. We are the least likely to date outside of our race. It does seem to be an animosity there though. Can we stop hating ourselves and love each other? Really the thing is that hair issues amongst black people=hair issues amongst most black men (maybe to a larger degree). Maybe natural sisters have picked up on this?

    I think the more important question is why most black men don’t want black women that don’t buy into the majority beauty standard. Why do they want to put us down? I.e. countless hip-hop songs. Sometimes I get the feeling that some black men hate black women. In the end I will be with the one who loves me best regardless of race. The question is whether the brother can step up to the plate or not.

  20. julia 31 March 2010 at 6:06 pm Permalink

    Natural black woman married to a wonderful black man – I’ve dated men. good, attractive men. Period. I’m with a black man and I’m blissful but it wasn’t a prerequisite.
    When we met in college (where black men were few and far between) I had a two-toned twa. We’ve been together through a multitude of hairstyles and the only negative comment I ever heard from him was when I went back to the perm for about a year. He was never a fan of that ‘salon smell’, Plus, then I didn’t want to go for walks in the rain anymore!

    I could go on but here in the SF bay area, I got more men (of every race) trying to talk to me almost the moment I went natural (both times). I think there’s a confidence that comes with being natural and grown men know how to appreciate.

  21. undeux3c'estmoi! 8 April 2010 at 10:11 pm Permalink

    I have to second Vacra’s comment. -> “haaaaay get it girl!!” Loves it!

  22. Stevie 14 July 2010 at 1:51 am Permalink

    I have been dating my boyfriend,who i met in high school my freshman year and recently got back together with, for one year this august and i decided to go natural about 2 months ago. He is white and he loves my hair, he plays in it alot now touching all the curls (so i have to worry about hands in fro syndrome a bit). He says he can’t wait for me to have a huge fro, and that made me really happy. When i had relaxed hair(he met me like that) he didnt seem to really notice, but he likes my twa. He used to talk about me having a BIG afro when i was relaxed so i guess he has always liked the idea of me going natural. I have had bad experiences like a guy saying “look, she bald” and that really upsets me. but i;m happy with my boyfriend and he’s happy with me so yeah :)

  23. R 10 August 2010 at 9:31 pm Permalink

    I see a trend with that as well, I often think that some men don’t like the woman with the weaves, wigs, extensions, or the relaxer you can’t touch. The “natural girl” can be more spontaneous and look good wet, air dryed…lol and sleeping w/o crying over her hair excessivly (:

    I know for me after wearing those veils of relaxers, braids and wigs, doing the big chop andletting the hair grow out. I noticed a big part of me was undiscovered and the real me couldn’t break through those chemicals. The confidence you gain overtime from being “natural” is attractive and the real beauty of our features comes through. That’s why I think naturals are more noticed by different races.

  24. MissyD 12 August 2010 at 8:08 pm Permalink

    I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF THIS ARGUMENT!!! Are you really going to turn your back on the Black Man and the African family as a whole over HAIR????!!! Yes there are some Black people who don’t like natural hair, but there are just as many White people who don’t either!!! White people just have a tendency to say disrespectful comments behind a persons back. To think for one moment that some of your white friends have not called you “nappy headed” behind your back. Honestly, any time I see a natural with a White guy my first thoughts are “you’re probably one of those chicks who has programmed yourself to think that Black Men only want chicks with perms” Give me a break.

    • It's all good 25 April 2011 at 3:29 am Permalink

      I don’t think that’s fair. Only dating black men because they are black is also racism. I STRONGLY believe that the important thing is a man who loves, respects you, etc, etc. He can be black, white, Asian, Latino, it DOESN’T matter. Avoiding white men because you ASSUME they say nasty things behind your back isn’t a fair assumption to make of them, just like avoiding black men because you ASSUME they want straight hair isn’t fair. Love DOESN’T need to focus on race. Go with whoever loves you, black or not.
      P.S. I also don’t understand why dating someone who isn’t black should be seen as turning your back on someone. You are dating an individual not a race of people. Your love is for how that person treats you not how other members of their race treats you. If we all see it like this, then we are as likely to date a really great black guy, as a really great white guy, as a really great Latino guy, as a really great Asian guy as a really great interracial man. Racism is WRONG no matter what form it rears it’s ugly head in! Love should be about Love NOT skin colour.

  25. LBell 19 August 2010 at 10:19 am Permalink

    @MissyD: I’m one of those women who’s done wasting time with black men who don’t want me — dark-skinned, nappy-headed — because I’m not going out of my way to look like a sad imitation of a white woman.

    Though honestly, where I live, it really doesn’t matter HOW a sister wears her hair — the majority of black men who are about something will not date her. They may fuck her, but they’ll do it on the DL while chasing after any and every white woman they can get. The vast majority of biracial kids in this town — and there are a LOT — are toddling after white mothers.

    Here’s the thing: In almost every OTHER aspect of my life, my current location is paradise. What do you suggest I do? Sacrifice all of that and move just to support the “African family”? Stay single? Date some loser just because he’s black? Or date men who are about something AND appreciate how I look AS I AM?

    Maybe if more black men got their heads straight the so-called “African family” wouldn’t be in crisis mode like it’s been for the last 25 years…

  26. Norman 19 August 2010 at 11:32 am Permalink

    Let me start by saying that I am a college educated black man from the hood in Chicago. I’ve never been arrested, and I have no children. I have a very diverse group of friends that I’ve grown up with – 7 of us have college degrees but many more have been arrested or are in jail. That being said, those guys that were the quintessential hood boys got a lot more attention than us nerds/”good dudes.” I continued to see this in college (New Jersey), and it wasn’t until after college that I met and fell in love with my natural haired wife. My college educated friends remain mostly unmarried.

    Why is this? For my generation and specifically my city, the allure of fast money in the streets led to a lot of fathers being taken away and young men needing to support the family. With no father figure, black boys almost never reach their full potential. Specific to this question, no one is there to teach them the value of a strong black woman. This younger generation is afflicted with the disease of escapism. The girls are looking for swag and the boys are looking for big booties and long hair. They are chasing an image that is being force fed to them; an image that has no counter. When all a young man sees is light skinned or white and latina women being portayed as sexy and desirable, and no one is telling him different, what do you expect his values to be?

    I could go on forever, and I apologize for my rambling rant. Let me end by saying I lived with white boys in college-I was surrounded by them. I don’t see what the fuss is about. A lot of the criticisms I hear about black men as far as how they treat women, I’ve seen in white men. I don’t know why any black woman would see them as their savior. If you do, I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment and heartbreak. Don’t discount a black man becuase of his sckin color, and don’t swoon over a white man because of his. Skin color does not determine behavior.

    • It's all good 25 April 2011 at 3:34 am Permalink

      Good to have another male perspective. All I can say is that I agree with you, women should go with good men who respect them, and it seems you are of that variety. As for the girls in College who didn’t respect you—well then they didn’t deserve you, you would have wasted your time. Working hard and having integrity, etc, etc are not always the popular values, but in the end you got what you deserved because you persevered in having the good, respectful life, you are with a woman who respects the work you put in. We need good quality people both female and male…and less racism because like you said it is not about skin colour but individual attitudes

  27. Gege 19 August 2010 at 1:05 pm Permalink

    @Norman you speak truth. Are you single…LOL

  28. Leo the Yardie Chick 19 August 2010 at 9:18 pm Permalink

    To answer the post question – No. I believe a natural woman fits better with a man who will appreciate and love who she is, inside and out. A real man will accept all of her, regardless of his own skin colour and ethnicity.

  29. Kaya 10 September 2010 at 3:25 pm Permalink

    I don’t know specifically about non-black men, but my white friends are OBSESSED with my natural hair. I’m on a swim team so all the (white) girls on my team go buck-crazy when I get out of the pool because my hair is all spongy and spirally… I have to admit, I love the attention, but Damn Ya’ll! This is just my hair, what’s the big deal?… I get the feeling they’re just really unused to it. They’re all used to their bone-straight or loose-curly hair. But I have to say, the touching does get annoying… Do I look like a damn poodle?? My guy-friend (also white) came up to me one day when I had cornrows and started touching my hair (WTF??). I was like “Matthew, what are you doing??” His response: “I just wanted to see what they feel like…” -_-’

    So basically, my summary is that it’s something so foreign and different to them (non-black people), they become obsessed with it. Kinda like Lady Gaga ;)

  30. Lauren C 19 September 2010 at 7:21 am Permalink

    lol, i kinda hope so. seeing as that im naturally attracted to white men.

  31. Leslie 19 September 2010 at 9:59 pm Permalink

    As a white woman, I am totally jealous of the natural texture of African hair. It is so gorgeous, and versatile. I have never understood why Black women want to change their hair to be “straight” like white womens. I dont have straight hair. My mothers side of the family has some ethnic background….Middle Eastern in origins so my hair is a bit thick, curly/kinky, etc..but it still has that texture of “white” hair…limp…lifeless sort of hair. Whereas..black hair..it is not limp, it is FULL and thick and full of life.

    So jealous.

  32. DIA 23 September 2010 at 2:34 am Permalink

    What is disgusting and tragic about coming to posts like this (THE COMMENTS OF BLACK FEMALES WHO ARE UTTERLY CONFUSED about White Supremacy, what it is and HOW if functions) is the endless, disgusting and misguided whining about “Black men this” and “black men that” and black men have “ruined our communities”- I would slap you all plain straight in the face with a Klan hood to wake you DBR females up if that is what it took!!

    BLACK MEN DON’T HAVE AND HAVE NEVER HAD THE POWER TO RUIN A COMMUNITY that for the ENDLESS DESTRUCTIVE EFFORTS OF WHITE PEOPLE AGAINST US HAS NOT EXISTED!!! Do you silly females want to know why you have drug problems in poor black communities? Besides the depression and hopelessness that exists among many of our people due to White socialmaterial domination & it’s CEASELESS CONTINUANCE, WHITE PEOPLE, WHITE PEOPLE AND IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST TWO TIMES, W-H-I-T-E P-E-O-P-LE,brought DRUGS into the Black community. The CIA< that govt./Wall Street CRIMINAL organization under White supremacist government sanction, FLOODED Black neighborhoods with drugs.

    Yet I hear silly Black females whining and moaning like delirious bovines about "black men ruining something"- that white people NEVER ALLOWED YOU TO HAVE!!!!

    When Black people built a community with banks, businesses, theatres, their own companies, BLACK MEN DID NOT DESTROY IT- WHITE PEOPLE DID…and do you silly females know how they did it? BY ARIAL BOMBING, that's right, THEY DROPPED A FUCKIN' BOMB ON YOUR BLACK CITY- THAT WAS A DAMNED COMMUNITY!! WHITE PEOPLE RUINED YOUR COMMUNITY!! But the silly bovines to moan and moo about that because they want to play Negresses to their former slave masters's sons and grandsons and want to be accepted by them.

    Black men do not make laws that give WHITE PEOPLE,who are the MAJOR DRUG USERS AND NUMBERS Of people arrested for drug crimes, pitiful and short slap- on-the-wrist sentences for COCAINE and HARSHER unjustly longer sentences for CRACK because that is THE POOR BLACK PERSON'S drug of choice – or most convenient one in the ghettos ( as white people bring LOADS of it there- after they unload the drugs from the CIA's planes!)- WHITE PEOPLE DO!!

    Black men do not legistlate the re-enslavement of themselves by INVESTING MONEY in PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEXES, in which STOCK CAN BE PURCHASED ON WALL STREET, leading to an INCENTIVE to make laws that will make it easier to harvest and reenslave THE MALES that could be protectors in the community- WHITE MEN DO!! But the silly bovine won't whine about that- NOR will they step up like WOMEN and FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE OPPOSING FORCE THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST Black females and BLACK PEOPLE- THE RACIST/WHITE SUPREMACIST COLLECTIVE.

    Therefore, Black women who whine and complain about Black men and how much of everything they ruin, gravitate more toward white men & moo about how much they "appreciate" their nappy/ natural/kinky hair, BUT IGNORE THE FACT THAT THESE ARE THE SAME FUCKING PEOPLE WHO INVENTED THE CAMPAIGN THAT YOUR HAIR WAS UGLY AND DISGUSTING AND PRIMITIVE AND SO WERE YOU, ( WHILE RAPING YOU & YOUR DAUGHTERS)- ARE BRAINTRASHED and a perfect example of Acute Insanity and Stockholm syndrome.

    You praise the very same people for "accepting you" who made you fuckin' UNACCEPTABLE IN THE FIRST GOD-DAMNED PLACE!! White men are not creating organizations and waging campaigns to put Black females or males and their nappy hair and brown skin on the covers of magazines and major campaigns across the world to compensate for supporting the system of Racism/White Supremacy. WHO IS RUINED HERE?
    WHEN YOU SEE WHITE PEOPLE PUTTING your "natural" look in the media, it makes them feel less racist than they are! Though they practice Racism/White Supremacy, it makes them feel more "cultured" and global to see themselves as being in touch with "all cultures" though they consistently destroy such cultures and people. :0

    I am not in any way shape or form flattered by white men or white people "liking" my hair, thinking its "cool" or being "jealous" of it. They alwayS HAVE been, it always HAS been cool and the only reason I ever thought it WASN'T was because of THEIR PROPAGANDA & consistent positioning of themselves as being "SUPREME" though they are a mutation of US.

    I suggest you all begin to study how White people have masterfully been able to OPPRESS, SUBJUGATE, EXOTICISE, ABUSE AND DOMINATE non-white people around the world, while at the same time enjoying COPIOUS AMOUNTS of sexual activity with said non-white peope, who apparently by many of the mooing female bovine on this comment board, seem to enjoy the domination immensely!!

    It is not "NATURAL" BLACK FEMALES who are better suited or "fit" for White men( in particular) it is those Black females who believe in Black inferiority/ White Supremacy who are most "fit" to be in sexual relationships dominated by suspected Racists/ White Supremacists. I do not Blame, whine or complain about some Black males preferences for straight hair any more than I would Black females who despite the fact that hair grows out of their scalps & they don't have money invested in stock, silver, minerals or property, would WASTE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS to buy straight hair sacrificed to an Indian diety from women in India. Same BLACK INFERIORITY PROGRAMMING.

    I pray I am alive to see the day that the mind of the NEGRO dies and black males and females become African MEN AND WOMEN & SEE THEMSELVES in their NATURAL state as the STANDARD!!!

    • It's all good 25 April 2011 at 3:37 am Permalink

      The important thing should be self love. White people have done terrible things in the past TERRIBLE, and yes it still goes on today. Yes it has affected black communities.

      and NO that does not mean that I have to develop an auto-response to hate white people. As many racists that I have met, I meet white people who are ashamed of the acts that have been committed against other races and are working to try and heal that divide. They hate racism as much as I do, and I feel like I need to mention (again) racism goes both ways…

      • It's all good 25 April 2011 at 3:45 am Permalink

        “WHEN YOU SEE WHITE PEOPLE PUTTING your “natural” look in the media, it makes them feel less racist than they are! ”

        HOnestly?!?! I have no doubt some of it is malicious, and that some CEOs are racist, but how dare you make generalizations about one race when you would object to the same thing being done for ALL black people. I apologize that you have not met enough good white people, let me assure you that like very other race there is good and bad within them.

        I mean has it occured to you that some white people are not even racist that they reject those ugly, damaging philosphies of their ancestors.

        Also I would like to give more agency to black people. Yes we have been subjugated and oppressed and there is a such thing as internalized racism. When I choose to get a relaxer because it looks better…BAM! Interalized racism! When I feel that “Oh locs don’t look as good as straight hair” BAM! Internalized racism.

        When I DECIDE to embrace what I’ve got, what grows out of my head and love it, when I decide to love people and let their actions be a reflection of who they are, rather than the actions of OTHERS within their race, or the actions of their predecessors, then BAM! Glory, glory, we all begin that long, hard road to change. It will take time, stereotypes and generalization are easy but we can DO this. We HAVE to, it is TIME for a change.

        Love all, connect with all, dispel the negative rumours or sterotypes, let go of the bitterness, move forward with those who wish to move forward. Leave the ugly racism (from wherever it comes from: black, white, etc) in the DARK recesses or the past where it BELONGS!

  33. DIA 23 September 2010 at 2:58 am Permalink

    @ Lbell,
    LBell

    19 August 2010 at 10:19 am

    Permalink

    @MissyD: I’m one of those women who’s done wasting time with black men who don’t want me — dark-skinned, nappy-headed — because I’m not going out of my way to look like a sad imitation of a white woman.

    I don’t think ANY mature woman wants to WASTE her time with men who don’t want her, nor with men she does not want, BUT ITS TELLING how YOU equate that to Black men as a whole when the vast majority of white men would not want you. But you want them, so by default, the “Black man” is labeled as a “loser”…smh!

    Though honestly, where I live, it really doesn’t matter HOW a sister wears her hair — the majority of black men who are about something will not date her. They may fuck her, but they’ll do it on the DL while chasing after any and every white woman they can get.<<< BELIEVE YOU ME, WHITE ME DO THIS ON A GLOBAL SCALE!! Did you know that Africa's tourism has risen by at least 26% in the last year? How much of that is child sex tourism ( White men)? Hmmm.. And let's not forget the bastard babies they have left all over Asia, and the COPIOUS amounts of PORN they produce and consume…White men, through the sociomaterial system called "Racism/White Supremacy" are actually BEST positioned to "fuck her" and chase every other WHITE WOMAN, ASIAN WOMAN, LATINA WOMAN, BLIND DEAF & MUTE WOMAN with a wooden leg!!

    And this they DO! Take a tour of Craigslist one evening and count the numbers of White men with wives looking for a "boyfriend" or "sidechick" to "fuck" and not commit to- Hell, look at Naomi Campbell getting "fucked" by a married white man and settling for the concubine positiion!!

    "The vast majority of biracial kids in this town — and there are a LOT — are toddling after white mothers."

    THE VAST MAJORITY OF MULATTO AND MIXED UP children on the GLOBE ARE PRODUCTS OF WHITE FATHERS.. the mulatto population on the globe has ALWAYS been the product of white men. So waxing bitter about the black male/White woman unions while excusing the never ending black female/White man sexual relationship, has instantly dismissed any credibility in your argument about who the "losers" would be.

    "Here’s the thing: In almost every OTHER aspect of my life, my current location is paradise. What do you suggest I do? Sacrifice all of that and move just to support the “African family”?<<<WHICH AFRICAN FAMILY WOULD YOU BE SUPPORTING? Did someone suggest you return to the land of your ancestors and assist an African family whose country has been underdeveloped by Europeans?"

    Stay single? Date some loser just because he’s black?<<WOW, LOSER by default means "BLACK" to you? So you are a loser too then? Funny how Black male and "loser" were the default thought for you, but suspected racist/WHITE MAN AND LOSER DID NOT GO TOGETHER in that thought process…" Or date men who are about something AND appreciate how I look AS I AM?" There are MILLIONS of Black males in the world who appreciate Black females as WE ARE" – however, if I WERE a Black male, what you communicate to ME about "how you are" WOULD BE AN IMMENSE TURN OFF!! By what you have exhuded in your comment, you have communicated that you associated Black male with "loser"..and that to me, would make you about as easy to appreciate as a White Supremacist- my sworn enemy. But I am NOT a Black male, but a Black female, who wishes that Black females who are already on the ground bowing to suspected Racists ( white men) would just SHUT THE HELL UP WITH ALL THE WHINING ABOUT BLACK MALES & denying the degenerate behavior of MANY black females today.. and just go ahead and move back to the plantation and make your massa some grits and ish!!

    "Maybe if more black men got their heads straight the so-called “African family” wouldn’t be in crisis mode like it’s been for the last 25 years…"

    MAYBE IF BLACK FEMALES GOT THEIR HEADS STRAIGHT, the so called "Black family" WOULDN'T BE IN CRISIS MODE.. becuase you would see that the very people you all WANT TO BE ACCEPTED BY ( The collective white family/ Racists/White Supremacists) are the ONES WHO KEEP ALL NON-WHITE PEOPLE IN A STATE OF CRISIS by their direct/indirect subjugation, domination, abuse and mistreatment of them for OVER 500 YEARS NOW.. But Black females would rather whine and complain about their male counterpart victims of racism ( whom THEY BIRTH AND RAISE) than to seperate herself from the very people who DO work as a collective family to make sure that they are the ONLY family on earth…

    Very strong suggestion for all the whining black females & those who don't whine about Black men, but want understanding none-the-less, tune into the C.O.W.S. SHOW ON Blogtalkradio.com You will learn for yourself from the mouths of white people with doctorates and phDs as well as from other non-white people HOW your "so-called families" have been DESTROYED AND ARE BEING KEPT THAT WAY.

    I know that many of us cannot accept something as truth unless a white person says it. There are over 100 SHOWS with suspected and admitted Racists/White Supremacists confirming EVERYTHING that I have said!

  34. napfrocurlzgirl 23 September 2010 at 12:14 pm Permalink

    I happen to be natural and with a white man, but he was with me prior to going 100 percent natural. I know my hair isn’t a factor, but I do find that whites in general are more receptive to natural hair. But, even when I wore my hair straight, black men still didn’t give me the time of day.

  35. BlaqueInfinite 27 September 2010 at 8:23 pm Permalink

    @Dia
    I agree with many of your points, but honestly when it comes to relationships, who cares about saving a race? Black women are just like any other women on a basic level, meaning we go with whoever approaches us, courts us, and is willing to start a legitimate relationship. I think the fact that some black people try to force black women to stick to their own race is forcing an unnecessary burden on them. Black women are not mules, and we are not responsible for any “community”-we are responsible for ourselves.
    That being said, many natural black women get approached more by white men than black men. It only makes sense to go with who shows appreciation, unless you suggest black women (and only black women) chase after men who aren’t checking for them. I agree that most white men are racist against black women, but most black men are also racist against black women. Actually, most black men have a much more active hatred for black females in particular-it is called raciomisogyny, and it is real. Either way, once you discount the racist and sexist men in America, there are still a larger number of eligible white and nonblack males who are open to dating black women than there are black guys. It is a numbers game, as you probably know.
    I feel bad for black women who fervently defend the honor of black men, when so many black men publicly and privately degrade the honor of black women. It doesn’t even matter that white men colonized Africans and other people of color because Black African men oppress their own women, and have been doing it since the beginning of time. Black men are no more on my side than white men are, and anyone who is to win my loyalty is going to be an individual who has earned it through something other than skin color.

    Anyway, I don’t want to debate about numbers or stats or much of anything here. I would like to add that black women need to be treated like women first and not BLACK women and when it comes to our needs as WOMEN (intimacy, love, protection, etc.), I believe race doesn’t matter.

  36. Trina 28 September 2010 at 11:54 pm Permalink

    I wear my hair natural. I dont believe white men could be a better fit for a natural hair woman. I do believe it is the person who appreciates her, but I cant lie sometimes I step out and I feel very invisible to black men. They dont respond well to my kinky hair I am in a relationship with a black man and he doesnt show any extra appreciation for it, such as touching it. I am trying to think and I dont recall any attention when I were my hair natural. He does tell me how he likes my hair when I have long extensions. So I know how he feels he just doesnt tell me. I also dont recall anymore attention from white men while wearing my hair natural, and its not as though I dont get any at all I have had men actually follow me around trying to talk to me.

    As for that girl in particular, she wasnt the only black girl at an all white party for nothing.

  37. Jamese 3 October 2010 at 11:30 am Permalink

    Wow, its crazy that someone else thinks this too! I’m natural, and after I cut my hair off black men started looking at me a little different, nobody was really trying to “holla” any more lol. I’m in Iraq right now and there are alot of Ugandan’s out here, those men always compliment me on my little fro, and I’ve recieved more compliments from them, and white people than I did from fellow black Americans. I don’t want to be with a white man, but they are more open minded to natural hair.

  38. Kitty 11 October 2010 at 10:48 pm Permalink

    Not sure if I apply here, I’m a afro Puerto Rican young woman. But, I was always viewed or seen as black (I like that actually).

    I grew up in the suburbs were there weren’t many minorities. When I moved to a more diverse environment (at 12), I was made fun of by the Puerto Rican and African American boys I tried to approach- even in my early highschool years. So my friends ended up being white because minorities would kick me to the curb. When I went natural at 15, not only did my white friends think my hair was cool, but so did a lot of minorities, especially when I dreded my hair.

    I opened up my circle of friends with some AA and Latino faces. I would see some nice looking brothers out there, but no personality match for me. I dated white guys and the same thing- not a great personality match. We were better off as friends. It was more about personality than color. Admittedly I did prefer white people as a young girl because they didn’t make fun of me. You learn what you experience (as my mother in law says).

    I finally ended up engaged to my loving guy-who is Columbian. Adopted by white parents as a baby, raised in the suburbs, not knowing how to speak a word of Spanish, and has pelo lacio: wavy hair, and he’s light skinned. Why do I like him? His personality! We both went to art school together and I saw his art before I saw his face! XD

    Ironically enough, he never was attracted to girls that looked like me. What won him over was that I was kind to him and I was a friend. He grew to love everything about me- my dark skin, coily curly hair, and my PERSONALITY first and foremost.

    So, to sum it all up, it all comes down to personal experience, personality, and tastes. We as humans are called to blend with each other. Life would be boring if we didn’t mix. And to be honest IMHO- OPPOSITES ATTRACT! :D

  39. A 21 October 2010 at 10:27 am Permalink

    @Kay – I am not disagreeing with you, but so what if “the 54%” that are left are dating outside their race? I mean they can’t be dating everyone but black women that doesn’t make any sense. Also, I’m sure the “statistics” on this can’t be that accurate I mean this would be based on asking people and there’s no way that someone has interviewed/researched every black male in America.

  40. A 21 October 2010 at 10:33 am Permalink

    @AYITICHERIE seriously though that can’t be all black men, you can’t have met all of them. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think there’s anything wrong with interacial dating – at the end of the day everyone should be so lucky to be with someone who truly makes them happy. All I’m saying is that nobody should generalize anyone’s race or gender or a combination of the two because that is another form of close-mindedness

  41. M 21 October 2010 at 10:46 am Permalink

    @Enny

    Really, we created this stereotype against ourselves? That is ridiculous, it implies that we have put ourselves down and quite frankly I’m surprised that as a feminist you feel this way. No one asks to be disrespected and no one tells anyone how to do it. Why would any black woman tell a black man that having straight hair, which we don’t have naturally is better than what we’ve got? Two more things, everything comes in and out of style – naturals were very popular in the 70s and then they weren’t, but as far as I can tell they’re making a comeback now and speaking for myself I have gotten positive responses from blacks and whites and asians… you get the picture. At the end of the day, you have to love yourself before someone can really love you, but no one ever asks to be mistreated or disrespected.

  42. real talker 22 October 2010 at 1:50 pm Permalink

    on the subject of black women with other race men because of the positive feedback they recieve about their natural hair, Im all for it! Forget being in a relationship with a man who does not know what real beauty is but i do believe that we should educate our young black men on natural black women. Black men go for other races beacuse they have been told straight long, or silky curly hair is beatiful. The same as with light skinned women. I do not have aproblem with interracial couples because you love who you love but i do miss black love beacause its becoming extinct. America has told black men and women that light skinned (no disrespect or hate on my light skinned sisters cuz i love you too) women and european styled hair is the only form of beauty. If black people would take the time to learn about the history of our beauty and the reasons god made us this color, then we could get back to what is important…..loving each other and ourselves no matter what shade of black we are or what our natural hair looks like.

  43. Stacy 27 October 2010 at 12:58 pm Permalink

    My boyfriend is Polish American raised in Poland for most of his life. He is the one that supports me in doing the big chop and says that i am beautiful no matter what. I love natural hair and think its beautiful. He tells his friends about how beautiful I am and he takes really good care of me. He’s one of the most unselfish people that I have ever met and is willing to give me more. He calls me his queen all the time and says that I call all of the shots in the relationship. He is a manly man who protects me if anybody has anything ignorant to say about our relationship and so forth. Great guy I must say.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love black men also but they are always so mean when they see me with my boyfriend but it’s okay for them to date outside their race? Screw that! It’s time for us black women to date whoever we want AND embrace our black beauty!

  44. LucysPearl 8 November 2010 at 9:41 pm Permalink

    Well speaking from a personal stand point, After going natural I received more attention from Black Men not White Men. Once in a blue a white man will try and holla at me (lol) but no more than before. If anything I noticed that a new caliber of more respectful Black Men started approaching me. I think its all in the mind. If you feel confident with Black Men then no matter what you will attract them. I have had very little interaction with White Men outside of a professional environment. Therefore honestly it would be really unlikely that I would even consider them as dating prospects. I think in order to date inter racially, people of other races have to become apart of your “world” so to speak, and being that I went to an HBCU, never had or have any non-black close friends, they are not apart of my world. Mind you I live in a racially diverse mid class neighborhood, but its like we lead our lives along side one another but they never collide in any significant way. Ive never had people of other races over my house for dinner growing up or been invited to their house either. I believe there is still an invisible segregation. My friend who does have white female friends says their dating experience is no better than ours and they experience the same “woes” if you will. I truly believe a lot of these so called black problems are propaganda and manipulation of statistics.

    • KeLeFluff 5 June 2011 at 9:19 pm Permalink

      I agree 100%. I have not experienced this problem at all. I love my Black men and I definitely experience their love for me on a daily basis; however, that is just my experience. I say in the end just do whatever makes YOU happy because that’s the most important thing.

  45. Monisola 10 November 2010 at 12:32 pm Permalink

    This is an incredibly interesting discussion. I am a natural haired, dark skinned, full lipped, Nigerian woman. I am dating a white man. But I LOVE black men and the black family. I do not want to blame anyone!! Please let us stop blaming each other! What we need to do as a people is love and support each other. Black men are not to blame, black women are not to blame. 600 YEARS OF OPPRESSION, DOMINATION, SUBJUGATION, SEGREGATION, RACISM, AND CLASSISM ARE TO BLAME. BLACK MEN ARE CONFUSED AND DAMAGED…IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT, IT IS THE WHITE POWER STRUCTURE’S FAULT!! I am with a white man, because I want to be loved and happy. I want to be respected, and there are simply not enough healthy, happy, stable black men to go around. BUT DO I BLAME BLACK MEN? NO! DO I TURN MY BACK ON THEM? NO! I ORGANIZE ON BEHALF OF MY PEOPLE, I WORK TO LIFT UP MY PEOPLE, WORKING WITH YOUNG BLACK MEN AND WOMEN. I hope more black families will rise up one day, but for now, this is the only life I have and the world we live in…so I opened myself up to love, wherever it came from.

  46. Vanisha 24 November 2010 at 6:25 pm Permalink

    I dont look at a persons skin color.. or even their sex for that matter. i get compliments from black guys and white guys about my hair.

  47. Lonitra 8 December 2010 at 12:05 pm Permalink

    Honestly I don’t think natural women prefer only one type of Man, if they do then they probably always had it. As far as the ones you approached, maybe they simply just didn’t find you attractive. I say keep it moving, you could easily have been rejected by just as many women that were not natural. I natural and ill admit more often than not I would be complimented by non-black men versus black men, But I don’t feel obligated to fall for them just because they compliment me, they come daily. So I believe there is a surprising aspect to it for some women to be complimented by different race of men but they will always have their own individual preferences and will cater to their liking.

  48. tdub 13 December 2010 at 2:25 am Permalink

    I can say i saw a trend before there were so many big chops.. but i always saw it as not preferring or being more suited for white men. I always thought that maybe there was a personality trait that laked in some other black women. Nowadays i think we are all alittle more open to finding love rather than finding our IBM (ideal black man). so in the present tense i dont think there is a correlation. And you have to admit that you werent the only black person that gave into the western philosophy of beauty, some will learn true self love before others. so thats what some black people are going through right now. i hate the division that has come between natural and black sisters. One love.

  49. bb 17 December 2010 at 10:32 pm Permalink

    I admit I have looked at men from different races because from my experience they are more excepting of my natural hair than my black brothers. I’ve received way more compliments from men who are not of my race about my hair, then men FROM MY OWN RACE. I date whoever appreciates me for who I am and these men do. I not saying all black men don’t like natural hair, but most black men I know prefer the lighter, looser curled chick. I hear of more black men saying they like Beyonce, compared to Kelly Rowland who is equally as stunning.

  50. Angela 21 December 2010 at 7:45 am Permalink

    Though Western media is dominated by Eurocentric everything, I’d like to believe that regular people are open to natural black hair, as it’s something of an anomaly. However, I don’t believe it’s something they genuinely envy, but rather, find “cool”. Moreover, I think it’s easier for white people to see beauty in natural hair that is less kinky and more curly because it is not too “strange” or too “black”. The up-rise of the urban hipster scene has also made natural hair more accessible to whites and on a smaller level, other non-black groups.

    As a multiracial person, who is often labeled black, I was often afraid of the way Asian people would treat me because of the stereotypes that Asians hate black people, when embarking on my Asian study abroad experience. To my surprise, most people were kind, which could be because I’m not “too black” for them with curly brown/red hair, a skin tone that got SEVERAL shades darker, yet resembles SE Asian skin, even though I have full lips and a button nose. Half of the people thought I was either Southeast Asian (from Papua) or half Asian. Nevertheless, I have received daily comments (“oh so dark/black, but so beautiful”, “oh so big, hair short, but so beautiful”, “how can your girlfriend be so beautiful? She doesn’t have white skin”) that have also been a clear reminder that even though they see my ethnic mixture, or what they perceive as my Asian side, the dark vs. light, kinky vs. straight dichotomy is a cold reminder of how ugly black is in Asia.

    Surprisingly, even though Asia is quite disturbingly Eurocentic as there are whitening agents in EVERYTHING including deodorant and sun block, MANY Asian women have their hair dyed a light brown/blonde, color contacts that lighten and enlarge the eyes, rhinoplasties, and wear hats, gloves, long pants/sleeves, and sometimes face masks to keep their skin white, I’ve never received so many comments on my beauty before. It’s funny because I am fully aware that I am much closer to their definition of “ugliness (blackness)” than beauty. Nevertheless, you see white men flocking here in the thousands looking for the young, beautiful, and DARK DARK DARK SE Asian women. And despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of them are prostitutes, they are some of the most beautiful people in the world, and with their full lips and broad, flat noses, they look BLACK!

    Even though non-blacks may not want the kinkiest of curls, because it’s been portrayed as ugly, wild, and simply, too “black”, I think they can be more open to natural hair because it is something they truly do not understand, and possibly something in which they are beginning to recognize beauty. When black women go natural and take care of their hair, it looks beautiful, and eventually more people will recognize it.

    I’ve never felt more beautiful with my full head of nappy curls. My Cambodian boyfriend digs it too. I had to laugh when we saw this little white kid on the TV, and he pointed and said, “oh god, his hair is so ugly, I hope my baby has hair like you.”


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