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02 July 2010 ~ 83 Comments

Guest post: The Afro-Latina natural hair experience

I’ve received several emails from Afro-Latina women who are embracing their coily/curly hair in a culture that is often unsupportive of and uneducated about natural hair.

Vickiana says:

I am so happy I came across your website. As a latina (dominican), there aren’t many women going natural around my neck of the woods. So, it was comforting to find this website and motivate me to stick through this…

And this email is from Vashti:

I wanted to send you this email to let u know that ur website is absolutely awesome! 11 years ago I got pregnant with my daughter and decided that i didn’t want to put anymore relaxers in my hair. Unfortunately i had no idea how to take care of my hair and after i gave birth i let my mother convince me to go to the salon and have a relaxer done. After that i tried on and off to go natural but always ran into the same problem I didn’t know how to take care of my natural hair.



Then Jan 2010 I decided that was it, I wasn’t going to try to go natural I was going to just do it. So I started researching online and stumbled onto your site… I’m half black and half puerto rican and grew up with my puerto rican mother who never did that kind of stuff to our hair so it was all foreign to me.

I’ve wanted to address this topic for a while, but felt I unqualified because I’m not Afro-Latina.

Then, at the Chicago naturals meetup, I met Dheena (pictured above) a GORGEOUS Panamanian natural. We started talking and she agreed to write a piece about her experience going natural as an Afro-Latina. Enjoy!

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Mi gente!

Being Hispanic — “Afro-Latina” — and natural is a complete challenge. It amazes me that in America, where being different is interesting and studied, we as beautiful brown-skinned Latinas have to deal with the negativity that surrounds natural hair.

I was born in Brooklyn, New York the “Americanized” child of Panamanian parents. I have a keen understanding of where I’m from and the beauty of my cultural background BUT there is one BIIIIIIIGGGG problem — brown-skinned Latinas are extremely hesitant to embrace the African roots mixed with “el son, la cumbia, el congo, y la salsa” within us. The big question is ‘why’? Why are the majority of Latina women OBSESSED with the waves and soft curls, rollers, perms, and “el blower” wraps?

As a little girl I used to admire seeing my mom get her hair done. I thought it was magic whenever her tight coils turned into a bone straight mane.

Me and my cousin getting our hair combed.

Religiously, every six weeks, perms were scheduled for Sundays at the house; a Dominican avocado treatment, roller set, blow dry, and wrap. Take notice of all the heat involved. When she roller set it she looked like one of Charlie’s Angels.

As I got older I noticed how Latin women would go insane over having straight and wavy hair. No NAPS! As my mom would say back in the day “no kinky…ese estilo no me gusta”. “No kinks…I don’t like that style”. The Latina beauty standard was just like America’s; a woman with a small waist, hips, very fair skin (European decent) and with LOOOOONG wavy hair. The media, novellas, and the public considered it the beauty norm. In soap operas the Afro-Latina is ALWAYS the maid or mami caregiver.

La Rubia (Blonde)

My mother used to dye her hair blonde as soon as she saw those brown roots coming. When I became the militant HBCU attendee, I asked my mother why she would dye her hair blonde and cause all that damage over the years. She replied that blonde hair was what men found attractive and pretty — and that she was trying to look like Tina Turner.

My mother (left) with the Tina Turner look

I remember my father would make sure that my mother got her hair done just as he wanted; long, blonde and wavy.

As a child I was obsessed with getting a perm. My mother gave me my first “Just for me” Perm at the tender age of nine. My hair was thick, full, and flowing for about a year.

My mother and I after I got my first relaxer at age nine.

After that, the constant relaxing took it’s toll and my hair went downhill.

I decided to go natural in 2003 while I was attending Florida A&M University. Because of the negative remarks from family members acting like I had committed the worst sin, plus dealing with an unsupportive boyfriend, I relaxed it. I became victim to damage (again) and chopped my hair to an inch in 2006. When I went home to NYC for the holidays I got the “oh my God, you look like a little boy”, to “como vas a conseguir un novio con ese pelo?” (“How are you going to find a man?”) Thankfully I had enough confidence to say, “Well I like it and at least my hair is healthy”.

Newly natural and a proud Latina

It didn’t matter to them that I decided to go natural because my eczema was invading my hairline in the back of my neck or that I had scabs that sometimes BLED! YES BLED! All that mattered was that my damaged long chemically treated mane was no longer present.

Today I have aunts — whose hair is damaged from years of perms and light dyes — that are in awe of my mane and inspired by my hair, thinking that it’s a full wig.

Loving my curls

I am happy to see that more and more Latinas of obvious African decent are embracing their oingy-boingy kinks and curls. WE ARE BEAUTIFUL! The browns, yellows, whites, and blacks, purple! No one can define what beauty is, but I must admit… it’s better when it’s natural!!!!

Ciao Chicas xoxo,

Dheena Acuña-Doyle

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83 Responses to “Guest post: The Afro-Latina natural hair experience”

  1. Anfaani 2 July 2010 at 1:20 pm Permalink

    beautiful! keep rocking that hair and being yourself. you never know, your familia may come around.

  2. Michelle 2 July 2010 at 1:28 pm Permalink

    Your hair is very cute. I get really tired of hearing about how “Afro”-Latinas don’t embrace their West African looks..I could care less if they acknowledge they are part of the diaspora and are looked at as black people too-that’s their problem. I love being who I am.

  3. Lonitra 2 July 2010 at 1:28 pm Permalink

    Absolutely love this blog. I completely understand where you are coming from with the Latina “norm” its so aggravating at times, because in some cases like at my university the Latin organizations are pretty particular in who they “accept” as far as looking like a Latina. I am Afro-Latina as well and most can tell i am of African decent however it bothers me to an extent when my fellow peers ask me my background and i say “I am African and Cuban American, and they say “no i mean your ancestry.” As if to say I cant possibly be of Latin decent if my hair is kinkier and my skin is darker. I do not mind being different but do not make it a big deal when its not. I love my background but that has nothing to do with my future. Anyways thanks for letting me ramble :) I am definitely happy with my decision to go natural because it is really a part of me, and very few people sadly appreciate it. Thanks for sharing

  4. b. 2 July 2010 at 2:02 pm Permalink

    Standing ovation!!!

  5. JASMIN(NTRALBEAUTY) 2 July 2010 at 2:10 pm Permalink

    OMG!! I can totally relate. It is a damn shame that the Latin culture is so negative about embracing their true roots. I am Dominican and people ask what my background is ALL the time. When I respond telling them I am Dominican, they are like “oh, guess you did not get the good hair” or “oh, your hair makes you look black”, SO IGNORANT!… I absolutely LOVE my hair! It is dark and FULL of coils and curls. My own family sees me and asks when am I going to get my hair done. All this to say WE ARE LATINAS…whether you want to say Afro-Latinas or not we are just that…LATINAS. I definitely feel uncomfortable when I have to sometimes “prove” that I am Dominican by speaking fluent Spanish, it makes absolutely NO sense to me. I can completely relate to this article, you couldn’t have described it any better.

  6. Stephanie C. Tucker 2 July 2010 at 2:24 pm Permalink

    I remember you from the meetup.I was right behind her and we are all a thing of beauty in our natural state, but that girl was gorgeous. very inspiring Chica

  7. Nickie Dee 2 July 2010 at 2:26 pm Permalink

    What a beautiful story! Gotta use “Oingy-Boingy”, lol that’s a cute phrase!

  8. Candace 2 July 2010 at 2:36 pm Permalink

    Thank you so much for this post. It is difficult for us latinas because people so often want you to draw a fine line and “choose” which side you are on. I also am Puerto Rican and black. My family can’t relate cause all they’ve known is relaxers but they NEVER made me feel like I had to choose. So why does the rest of the community want me to? Why should I have to choose between the two sides of me that I love… naturally.

    Represent Mija! We are all beautiful!

  9. Alisha 2 July 2010 at 2:53 pm Permalink

    Loved this story and love her hair! I’m actually part Latina by way of my mother, but don’t know Spanish, lol.

    Anyway, I’m glad to see stories like this because I realized long ago the pressures many Afro- or curlier haired Latinas had to make themselves conform to the supposed beauty norm. I have to admit, some of the best salons I’ve visited over the years were the Dominican ones. But it made me sad how all of us felt we had to get our hair blown to silky straight perfection just to look “right”. :-(

    By the way, Jasmin, I have a few Dominican friends who are either very dark skinned or have kinkier hair and get that crap all the time. I say ignore their ignorance! Latinas come in every complexion from white to black!

  10. Sasha-Shae 2 July 2010 at 3:23 pm Permalink

    She’s absolutely gorgeous! I love her hair in the curly afro. Just pretty!

  11. L. 2 July 2010 at 3:47 pm Permalink

    I agree with b. Standing ovation!

  12. E*star 2 July 2010 at 3:48 pm Permalink

    This post made my heart swell with pride and love. As a natural Latina (cuban/puerto rican), It’s hard not to occasionally feel isolated -like an island, if you will ;-) by lack of visibility on these sites from other naturals whose culture and ethnicity i can identify with.

  13. MP 2 July 2010 at 3:51 pm Permalink

    Between this and the NFATW posts we see that culture is truly becoming globalized. Our experiences going natural are echoing each other no matter where we are in the world, no matter which dialect or language the people advising us to take up the flat iron/hot comb/relaxer are doing it in. It’s comforting to have so much company and scary at the same time.

    And I think Dheena and her hair are gorgeous too :)

  14. amber 2 July 2010 at 4:23 pm Permalink

    I love this post! I am also a black person of Latin descent. We come in many shades and with many different hair textures. I love my kinks/curls and I am never looking back! Kudos on this post!

  15. Black Married Momma 2 July 2010 at 5:07 pm Permalink

    I get confused about the “Afro-Latina” thing, admittedly. Why? It seems that most of those whom I’ve met who may be characterized in this manner emphasize the Latin and downplay the “Afro,” when in fact, just like their brethren and sistren in North America, we are byproducts of the trans-Atlantic slave trade and all mixed up with other peoples, often by force. They speak Spanish and we speak English, but we are of primarily African descent with a shared heritage of capture, enslavement and assimilation.

  16. Shukura 2 July 2010 at 5:55 pm Permalink

    THANKYOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY, its sooo sad, but im glad you realised that natural is better. and im gladu were the first to do it and continued through even though you didnt have the support of no one not even your familia

    xx

    its nice to here afro latina side of the hair stories as there are so many african americans on this site so its nice to hear it from a different perspective and a different part of the world
    xx
    Shukura

  17. mynaturalhairrocks 2 July 2010 at 6:20 pm Permalink

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THAT! Ive been natural for one year and a half and considering moving to the Dominican Republic, and I always remember from past trips there, the whole obsession with good hair bad hair! i get so sick of people denying their african heritage. people are SO brain washed! its sickening sometimes. But i have to admit, i probably was for a while too.

    At least we have the each other in the natural hair blog world.

  18. Michelle 2 July 2010 at 6:47 pm Permalink

    I agree with Black Married Momma..it’s all almost the same story just in different languages..and I don’t consider the Dominican Republic “another part of the world”..it’s in the Northern Hemisphere, in the Americas..

  19. Melissa 2 July 2010 at 7:37 pm Permalink

    I’m really glad Afro-Latina’s are being represented on such a positive site. I could definitely relate.

  20. justicefighter1913 2 July 2010 at 8:06 pm Permalink

    This is a very powerful piece! Thanks D! Love your fierce hair and style!

  21. vashti 2 July 2010 at 10:12 pm Permalink

    Hi all vashti here I bc’d june 12th n the next day sent an email 2 leila n my email was part of this post as I said in my email I’m black n puerto rican n can definetly relate 2 dheenas story. When I told my granma from my moms side[puerto rican but wit hair nappier then spanish culture likes n at 80 still doin relaxers] she said what r u gonna do just walk around nappy? It just kills me that ppl even my own fam don’t understand their own hair. To make matters worse the day I bc’d my friend came ova wit her domnican mother in law. I had neva met this woman b4 but 4 some reason she felt the need 2 tell me that my curls r 2 tight n that my hair would look nice n silky if I did a texturizer. I looked at her as if she was crazy. She confirmed 2 me that ppl r brainwashed into thinkin that if u have curls they need 2 b loose n silky 2 b pretty. I love my curly fro n wish I did it sooner. To all the ppl who don’t understand the afro latinas imagine being stuck between 2 cultures I speak spanish so I’ve always been considered by the black girls as spanish cuz I speak spanish n since I’m darker n my hair isn’t “nice” the spanish girls always considered me black. But I’ve always loved myself n I looked at it as havin the best of both worlds. Thanks 4 lettin me vent. I love this site without it I prob would still be a slave 2 my flat iron n blow dryer.

  22. Adriana 2 July 2010 at 10:22 pm Permalink

    @ Black Married Momma and Michelle:

    While the Afro-Latina/o and Afro-American experiences share some commonalities, I think it’s a vast oversimplification to say that the only difference between the way that race has played out in North America and they way that it has played out in Latin-America, is a matter of language. Even though racial differences are still an issue, Latin-American societies place a strong emphasis on shared culture and national identity irrespective of race. That may explain why so many of the Afro-Latinas represented on this site identity as being both Latina and of African descent.

    I say all of this b/c think it is important to acknowledge the unique struggles that Afro-Latinas face in embracing their natural textures. Yes, we’re all “black” but we all bring diverse experiences because of the cultural context in which we experience that blackness…

  23. Adriana 2 July 2010 at 10:24 pm Permalink

    oops I should have said “Anglo-America” instead of North America!

  24. MissyD 2 July 2010 at 10:56 pm Permalink

    I am really glad to see this article. It is very VERY rare to see a Latina embrace her natural roots. So this is very inpirational

  25. Erika 3 July 2010 at 2:09 am Permalink

    I’m Afro Puerto Rican and I can totally understand where you’re coming from. As a child my mother grew frustrated with me squirming and crying when she would try to comb and tame my thick afro hair. At the very tender age of 4 she gave me a kiddie relaxer to make it easier to comb my hair. I hated going to the salon! I hated not having wash and go hair like my white and lighter Hispanic peers.

    I took the natural plunge at 15 (with locs)and reverted to the creamy crack after cutting off my locs at 19. Thankfully I woke up and left the creamy crack for good.

    Our communities and media, both African American and Latino, need to start showing that natural hair is beautiful! Keep up the beautiful coils!

  26. brunettefury 3 July 2010 at 8:32 am Permalink

    Great was a great read!

  27. LBell 3 July 2010 at 8:41 am Permalink

    Que linda! Thank you for your story.

    Yes, our culture may be becomingly increasingly global, but not when it comes to celebrating anything that’s native to West Africa: skin color, hair texture, facial features. And the saddest thing is that it’s mostly US downplaying OURSELVES. We should ALL OF US be proud of what we’re given…and stop paying attention to a media that makes money off of our shame…

  28. Black Married Momma 3 July 2010 at 9:37 am Permalink

    Adriana,

    I understand what you mean. However, it’s somewhat difficult for me to balance that with so much of what I have usually encountered with Blacks from Latin America. Yes, there is certainly a great sense of cultural allegiance/connectivity, in fact, they tend to be even more dysfunctionally color conscious than we are, but often at the expense of acknowledging the fact that they are (primarily) black/African-descended. For example, I recently enocuntered a guy who was from the Dominican Republic. He looked somewhat on the order of someone like T.J. Holmes from CNN; he absolutely would not acknowledge that he had any Black/African in him at all. He’d say Native American, European . . . and would only go as far as “Dominican.”

    My statements are by no means intended to be an accusation against the poster of the original blog post, but it’s simply an observation, generally.

  29. ReneekaRae 3 July 2010 at 2:08 pm Permalink

    dheena, you are beautiful!

    i must admit, i am just now learning that many afro-latinas do not embrace their natural hair. i always that latinas wore their natural hair out all the time. it didn’t make it any better when snoop dogg noted, “hair long, black, and curly like you cuban” (beautiful ft. pharrell). so this is very new to me.

    i’m glad that the issue is being addressed, and must say that regardless of your heritage, your texture and curls are just beautiful! fascinating, even!

    i’m upset that i straightened my hair before national afro day, and am tempted to wash it! haha! but i can’t wait to get my curls and texture back.

  30. Monisola 3 July 2010 at 5:56 pm Permalink

    I don’t understand the distinctions people are making. I am a black American. Afro-latinas are just black people in latin america. Africans were taken from Africa and sent to many different places. We are the descendants of those Africans. So whether you are from Latin America or South America or North America, USA, Canada whatever….you are black. Because we are all mixed up. The majority of black people in the USA are mixed with europeans and native americans too. But we don’t try to down play our African or black heritage. We just say we are black. Why do Afro-Latinas even call themselves that? They are just black people from Latin America. I am a black person from North America. Not only is there a problem with “Afro”-latinas not accepting their hair. They don’t seem to want to accept that they are just black, African people, whose people back in the day got stolen from Africa.

  31. Maritza 3 July 2010 at 6:00 pm Permalink

    First off thank you so much for sharing your story. I am Hispanic of Mexican background my husband is African American and we have a beautiful little girl. I have searched high and low for a term I can use to describe my daughters background without making either one of our ethnicity’s seems less important than the other and absolutely love the term “Afro-Latina”. I was blessed to have a close African American friend who has natural hair. She has guided me, advised me, encouraged me on how to take care of my little ones hair. I have educated myself and continue to do so on how to maintain my daughters hair natural and beautiful. I tell her everyday she’s got amazing hair. Once again thanks for your story.

  32. Daja 3 July 2010 at 7:47 pm Permalink

    I agree with Adriana. Language definetly isn’t the main thing that separates us from Latinos of African descent. Even some West Africans cannot identify with us solely on our ancestral background. In South America and the Carribean, their racial history is different then ours in the US (One drop Rule, Miscegenation). Slavery was slavery but the structure of slavery was different depending where it happened. The British were always isolated so when they joined the slave trade they had deep repulsive attitudes against black people b/c they had never seen them before. This lead to a great separation between them and other foreign people (e.g. Indians in India). Which is why here in the US we tend to separate from each other even when we share a singular American culture. With the Spaniards or French, they had already traded with Africans for many years before the knowledge of a New World, which is why they didn’t really mind being around Africans as much as the British did. I’m from Louisiana and I can first hand tell you how the French rule of Louisiana has affected our attitudes today (for the most part Southeast La). We all share the same culture. The only thing that distinguishes me from a white person in Louisiana is my slave history and I can acknowledge that. If the Americans hadn’t bought Louisiana who knows, we might feel more connected to each other way pass our racial differences and more so on our nationality or culture. Although in reality, I know most people of African descent (not exclusively Latinos) are somewhat ashamed of their African roots b/c of the slave history complex (even here in Louisiana). This I can agree with the other posters on. We share the same slave concept of anything African is ugly (this by far is the main thing we share in slave history). The difference is culture as a whole. With my example of the French, it shows that they pushed my ancestors in being proud of a singular culture while affirming a superior/inferior complex. I can see this with many Latinos of viewable African descent (this doens’t mean they are primarily African descent). They are proud to be of a singular culture amongst other Latinos while still carrying negative feelings about their own unique ancestry. In other news, the OP’s hair is beautiful. I like it when people of other backgrounds have a story to tell.

  33. iREALiZED 3 July 2010 at 9:19 pm Permalink

    Shout out to FAMU!

  34. Adriana 4 July 2010 at 1:42 am Permalink

    @ Married Black Momma and Monisola:

    How is the unwillingness of the Latinos of visible African descent to identify as being “black” any different from those African Americans who insist on pointing out their distant “Native American” or indigenous roots?? Like Daja said despite our differences black societies all over the world have a tendency of affirming traits associated with the “oppressor.”

    Other differences between Anglo-American slavery and Latin-American or slavery that may explain the tendency of Afro-Latino/as to identify with a national or cultural identity:

    - in latin-american slave colonies, black slaves were the majority rather than the minority (as was the case in anglo-america), so by necessity there was more intermixing between slaveholders and the enslaved black population. Additionally the one drop rule wouldn’t have worked so well for the white slaveholders (it would have meant that there would be more blacks and less whites… it made more sense to extend nominal privilege to those of mixed heritage and to encourage more intermarriage to “whiten” the population).

    - Spanish and Portuguese legal systems favored the “legitimation” of children born out of wedlock to enslaved women and white slave-holding men. English common law was quite the opposite.

    Anyway this is a really interesting topic, and I would be interested in hearing what more Afro-Latinas have to say about it…

  35. Patrice 4 July 2010 at 12:12 pm Permalink

    Adriana

    There were many differences between slavery in the carribbean / latin american countries and the US. Black N. Americans are more generationally removed from Africa than are their carribbean / latin american cousins. And as mentioned before the American idea of race is much more rigid.

    I’m not sure if having more a minority population means that white slave owners would encourage or tolerate intermixing. In many southern states black slavers were in fact the majority. Although the situation in S. Africa about slavery-”blacks” were the majority and intermixing was not really encouraged or tolerated.

    I believe that what these differences present is a wonderful opportunity to explore how two different “slave systems” produced similarities and differences.

    The one-drop rule had and has it limitations for many reasons however it help to establish a political definition of “black.” This meaning help black americans fight discrimination.

    Why do believe there aren’t more afro-latinas developing blogs about the politics of hair?

  36. Janique 4 July 2010 at 1:11 pm Permalink

    I do agree that across the board, no matter what culture you grew up in, some black people have complexes and don’t want to be considered completely black. It annoys me sometimes when people are like are you mixed because I guess my hair is not “black” enough. When I tell people I’m just black, they’re like, “no, you must have some white in you.” Granted, my grandmother is actually Cherokee Indian and had wavy hair, but what I identify with is my black culture. I’ve also been asked if I was Dominican. I never understood that one either. It never fails that you will hear a person say that “o I’m not just black..I’m Black, Indian, and Scottish” for example. It’s sad we often downplay our “blackness” so to speak.

  37. Cygnet 4 July 2010 at 4:17 pm Permalink

    I am African-American, and I am astounded and appalled by what I see as arrogance from other African-Americans who think it is your place to re-identify African Latinas because you disagree with where they put the emphasis on their own identification of the various parts of the cultures that make them who they are. You may draw conclusions and have opinions about who they are and how they should identify based on any arbitrary thing you want to bring up, but the only one you can truly identify in the end is your own self. And let’s face it, some African-Americans can’t even get their own identity straight. If she thinks she is as much Latina as she is African, and it’s what her culture and nationality have taught her, then that’s her business, and since you’re not her, you can’t tell her she’s wrong. If she came from the same womb as you, she wouldn’t be the same as you, so how can you tell her she’s the same as a whole country as other African-descendant people when she may not even be from the same hemisphere?! Their dysfunctionality is their own, and yes they need to deal with it. But once they’ve done so, they still will be African like an African person of Latin cultural descent/history/experience, not like an African of North American descent/history/experience. If there is any one thing that should make it glaringly obvious that just being African doesn’t guarantee commonality of community and culture among Africans, it is the constant warfare that rocks the various parts of that continent on any given day.

    And let’s be precise about it: Africa is a continent. A continent made up of a number of countries, all with their distinct borders and cultures within those borders. And within one country may be several ethnicities and/or people groups. Being on the same continent does not make an Ethiopian the same as a Kenyan, or a Gambian the same as one from Lesotho, or a Somalian the same as a Zimbabwean. So if all these Africans are so different one from the other, and they live on the same continent, why is it anathema to some African-Americans that Afro-Latinas can self-identify thus, especially when many of them are on a different continent than us?

    The same thing we say to each other about hair applies to identity here: “Do you!” And mind your own identity!

  38. Black Married Momma 4 July 2010 at 4:38 pm Permalink

    I’ve studied and read a lot about the differing manifestations of slavery in the Americas and the different racial classification systems. Franz Fanon and many, many others. It still reaks of an anti-African sentiment – pointing out the non-visible aspects of oneself that are not black while downplaying that which clearly is, referring to oneself as “brown-skinned” rather than black . . . all symptoms of at least a partially colonized mind, in my mind, anyway.

  39. Danni 4 July 2010 at 6:59 pm Permalink

    I can not express how excited I was to see the words “Afro-Latina” when I came to this site today. My lovely boyfriend is Panamanian with features that clearly show his African ancestry and I have been hard pressed to find ANYTHING, ANYTHING that had to do with the Afro-Panamanian experience. I truly want to understand his culture, experiences and perspective but for all intents and purposes, there isn’t much out there. He loves all my natural kinks, coils and curls but it is obvious that he has only come to love all of our African features after years of hating his deep brown skin complexion, kinks, full lips and broad nose. Since he doesn’t really want to talk about “race/nationality/heritage” this is my first real-life, unadulterated look into the afro-latin world.

    Thank you!! Thank you!! Thank you!!

    Beautiful story and beautiful woman

  40. dheebella 4 July 2010 at 7:14 pm Permalink

    I thank you for the compliments ladies. Means a lot! I am elated that I have inspired some women and sparked a topic of discussion for others.

    Much love and blessings,
    Dheena

  41. Adriana 4 July 2010 at 9:57 pm Permalink

    @ Patrice:

    In response to your statement about the “one drop rule” encouraging greater racial self-identification than the more fluid racial model characteristic of Latin-America, I would not disagree with you there. However, I don’t remember saying that the Latin-American model was superior to the Anglo-American racial model, I simply pointed out that there are differences and those differences should be appreciated and understood. While there may not be as strong racial self-identification in Latin America, Latin American nations often view themselves as being “mulatto” nations or “brown nations” where racial mixture is a part of the national character. The underlying belief is that there are no true racial distinctions because there is one race. Sometimes even people who are not visibly of African descent will acknowledge African ancestry. Now does this eliminate the reality of racial prejudice? No. Afro-Latinos/as still face very strong prejudice prejudice in various sectors of society. But in the end both the Anglo American and Latin American systems are premised on white superiority Only the one drop rule presumes that whitness should be kept apart from blackness and the Latin American model presumes that blackness should be diluted. It’s not really fair to suggest that one is better than the other…

  42. S 5 July 2010 at 11:58 am Permalink

    Dheena-

    Your hair is beautiful and your story is inspiring. Thanks for sharing.

    I agree wholeheartedly with Cygnet. Who are we to assign labels?? It is her hair, her life and her journey. She is sharing to educate us. She knows who and what she is.

  43. Aisha 5 July 2010 at 1:21 pm Permalink

    @Cygnet
    Word to your whole post, especially this part:

    “You may draw conclusions and have opinions about who they are and how they should identify based on any arbitrary thing you want to bring up, but the only one you can truly identify in the end is your own self.”

    and this

    “Do you!” And mind your own identity!”

    It’s very out of line for outsiders to try to tell others how to identify, or to try to oversimplify their unique experiences. I want to hear it straight from the horse’s mouth! Great topic BGLH.

  44. Ivy 5 July 2010 at 3:26 pm Permalink

    I’m also concerned by this preoccupation with how other women self-identify. it’s like me as an African telling every Black person on this site that y’all are all Africans and it doesn’t matter where your immediate ancestry is from and how that has affected your life, you should all self-identify as AFRICAN! that doesn’t make sense. i think we all love this site because it has encouraged us in some way to embrace who we are instead of someone else’s definition. when you say that you “get confused about the ‘Afro-Latina’ thing” and then someone explains it, we should respect their explanation because it’s the way they choose to self identify.

  45. Anon 5 July 2010 at 4:50 pm Permalink

    A different culture is a different culture, no matter WHAT color you are. White folks from Sweden may not have the same eating habits as white people from America. I’m also Panamanian, and I do NOT identify with African-American experience because my parent’s are NOT American (African, sure, we’re black, but American, no) so I would say my experience is latino, but also West Indian as well… but never American. That doesn’t make me better than my neighbor’s who can find slave graves in Tennessee, that’s just who I am.

    Since this is a hair board, I compleeeetely agree with the author. When I told my [panamanian] mother that I was going natural, she was NOT in agreement. It really really baffles me that my white friends will scrunch their hair to make it curly, or tan until they burn, and all kinds of thing just to look like us… and we spend SOOO much time trying NOT to look like ourselves.

  46. Seattle Slim 5 July 2010 at 5:53 pm Permalink

    I LOVED THIS!!! To the author, what part of Panama are you from? I’m from Panama too. My family is Panamanian and my grandfather still lives there. I came up here in 1992. Anyway, I remember this happening to an extent. My grandmother and all of her friends were always on time for their presses. The one thing that saved me while in Panama, was my mom was fiercely natural. It actually came crashing down when I came to the states. The presure was on in Panama but it seemed irrelevant, background noise. Up here, it was hell. I’m a happy natural now and my mom is ever supportive and so is my family (my brother, grandfather, etc.) but I know I’m lucky. It shouldn’t be about luck. Either way, it was great to read this. Saludos!

  47. summer-daze 5 July 2010 at 6:55 pm Permalink

    I agree with Black Married Momma & Monisola.

    The whole ‘”brown-skinned” Latina’ statements caught me making this face: :-\
    There are 3 races: Mongoloid, Negroid & Caucasoid. Where is Latinasoid? Doesn’t exist right? That’s because the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Cuba are all NATIONS. There’s a difference between RACE & NATIONALITY & alot of BLACK PEOPLE from South America fail at understanding the difference.

    Why are we SO afraid to be Black? If you tell a Black person from Puerto Rico or the Dominican Republic they’re Black, they’re just about ready to fight. I’ve never heard a white person from Puerto Rico calling themselves a European-Latina so why do we do it?

  48. Adriana 5 July 2010 at 8:55 pm Permalink

    @ Summer-daze:

    We live in a multiracial and multicultural world… NO ONE is racially pure… I think you’re confusing biological and socio-political definitions of race…

  49. Mizz Yaz 6 July 2010 at 1:04 am Permalink

    I love this blog and yes I feel woman who do all natural thing and take care of their hair. It can come out looking so much prettier!

  50. Efuru 6 July 2010 at 7:36 am Permalink

    I’m a little confused by why people are giving the ‘brown-skinned’ comment a side-eye, maybe she is just describing her skintone as their are Latinos of all tones. Think about it, who told you you were ‘black’? Wasn’t it the same ‘oppressors’ we are all (still) trying to overcome? It’s funny how we hold onto certain things, the term ‘Black’ is political (its also something that we learn; if you ask a four year old kid what colour they are, chances are you’ll get something like ‘Brown’) commonly used to identify people of the diaspora (and encourage Pan-Africanism) but in the UK, South Asians are also ‘Black’.


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