By Cipri­ana of Urbanbushbabes.com

Fea­tured above are a few pho­tos of me rock­in a whole hel­lu­va lot of a weave years ago for an 8 page edi­to­ri­al spread for Vibe Vix­en Mag­a­zine. Yes ladies, I am no stranger to the word WEAVE. Not only did I apply weave for aes­thet­ics but to ease the shock and stress of los­ing 3 years of nat­u­ral growth in one night from a self-applied tex­tur­iz­er gone hor­ri­bly wrong. That would be the last time I placed chem­i­cals on my hair.

The idea of wear­ing a weave was not new to me. Years before I had worn weaves dur­ing my mod­el­ing career to help mit­i­gate the unhealthy hair care prac­tices, tur­moil and con­stant week­ly usage of heat my hair was exposed to when I was in the indus­try. I nev­er knew how much my hair would flour­ish until I actu­al­ly wore a weave and saw the results for myself. Most of the fruit­ful results had to do with low manip­u­la­tion of wear­ing weaves weeks and weeks at a time con­sis­tent­ly for about two years. But as much as my hair flour­ished I suf­fered some seri­ous draw­backs like tem­po­rary trac­tion alope­cia, scab­bing and irri­ta­tion, dan­druff and extreme dry­ness which even­tu­al­ly led to break­age due to the neglect of my nat­u­ral hair under­neath the weaves.

Fast for­ward years lat­er, I was now stand­ing in front of the mir­ror about to embark on the weave trail once again but this time the idea of wear­ing a weave was a lot less fright­en­ing since I knew all the pit­falls to avoid. This time the results proved uni­ver­sal­ly ben­e­fi­cial.

I am going to share the pros, cons and suc­cess­ful tips that will pro­duce the most fruit­ful results for your nat­u­ral tress­es while wear­ing a weave.

PROS
Less Manipulation

This is one of the ulti­mate pros of wear­ing a weave. Manip­u­la­tion of your nat­u­ral tress­es is dras­ti­cal­ly reduced which guar­an­tees more length reten­tion.

Easier Transitioning

The Big Chop can be a scary plunge if one prefers longer hair or is used to a cer­tain look. True con­fi­dence comes from with­in but a weave can provide an eas­ier tran­si­tion­ing peri­od for a wom­an who may be debat­ing elim­i­nat­ing straight­en­ing and chem­i­cals and going through with the Big Chop.

Styling Versatility/Manipulation

Let’s face it, not every­one is com­plete­ly sat­is­fied with only manip­u­lat­ing their hair once a week. Many nat­u­rals want more vari­ety dur­ing the week con­cern­ing hair­styles. Weaves can provide con­stant manip­u­la­tion with­out the stress on your tress­es. Weaves also provide a great option for a high­ly active lifestyle.

Developing Patience

Weaves can help you devel­op patience in the grow­ing out process since you no longer have dai­ly con­tact with your nat­u­ral hair. It can help con­trol the urge to grab a mea­sur­ing tape every 5 sec­onds to assess new growth.

Protection from the Elements

Your weave can be a cloak of pro­tec­tion for your hair, shield­ing it from harsh ele­ments such as weath­er, too much sun expo­sure, and cloth­ing that can cause fric­tion on nat­u­ral strands. Also if wear­ing 100% human hair you now have the free­dom to use heat based appli­ances with­out fear of dam­age to your nat­u­ral strands.

Cut and Color Changes

Cut and col­or with ease. Exper­i­ment­ing with col­or and cut while wear­ing a weave is a safe and easy way to play around with dif­fer­ent looks.

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really

If wear­ing weave is so great, and your hair grows so much bet­ter. Why weave wear­ers nev­er rock they own hair in pub­lic ? Pro­tec­tive my ass . Why are wig and weVe wear­ers edges gone .

Jade

Because some peo­ple feel like doing their nat­u­ral hair is too much to do

Dee
I HATE HEARING DUMB PEOPLE SPEAK. Obvi­ous­ly per­sons that this hap­pens to is the ones that are not inter­est­ed in PROTECTIVE HAIRSTYLES. They just do it for the trend or so they don’t have to comb their hair. They obvi­ous­ly don’t treat their real hair when it is in the weave style. I wear weave every­day and wigs nev­er go out with my real hair and my hair is VERY EXTREMELY THICK, LONG TO MY BUTT AND IT IS VERY HEALTHY. I am actu­al­ly afraid to leave it out because it may get dam­age. WEAVE has treat­ed my hair excep­tion­al­ly… Read more »
Renae
I’m nat­u­ral, but love wear­ing a weave now. Twist­ing and sit­ting under the dry­er for hours is for the birds! lol My hair has done great over the past few months. To retain length, it’s impor­tant to have a great styl­ist that knows how to braid prop­er­ly. It’s also impor­tant to take care of it like it’s your own hair. I wash/co-wash it every week, deep con­di­tion my hair and weave under the hair dry­er every two weeks, oil my scalp with essen­tial oils every 2–3 days (tea tree and pep­per­mint oils are great for itch scalp), and I spray… Read more »
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Keisha
I love wear­ing weaves. I def­i­nite­ly agree with the pros. I haven’t expe­ri­enced the cons.…really… Weaves are expen­sive but I took my hair dressers advice, she told me to spend mon­ey on pound hair (human hair that is pur­chased from a hair fac­to­ry) Now pound hair isn’t cheap.… But the depre­ci­a­tion val­ue is awe­some. I spent $260 on 8oz of hair ( which is com­pa­ra­ble to how much hair you receive in two packs of store bought hair ) but I can keep using it over and over again. The more you wash and set it the more nat­u­ral it… Read more »
NapturalNicole

Great post! Wigs and Weaves can be great for nat­u­rals. I LOVE wigs as a pro­tec­tive style. I prefer to wear inex­pen­sive wigs that look like as close to my nat­u­ral hair as pos­si­ble. I blog about nat­u­ral hair also- and always have updates on the most nat­u­ral look­ing wigs on the mar­ket. Check it out here!:

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AC

My prob­lem with braid exten­sions is my dry scalp. I have yet to find a mois­tur­iz­er and a hair wash­ing rou­tine that can make me dandruff/scalp itch free. This was frus­trat­ing, espe­cial­ly when I was a poor col­lege stu­dent who didn’t have time for any­thing oth­er than study­ing. My hair has grown after 1.5 years of braids, but now my styl­ist is say­ing how dam­aged my hair is, and I need to trim trim trim :( Not what I want­ed, but I would love to get pos­i­tive feed­back for main­tain­ing braid exten­sions for as long as pos­si­ble.

antionette

s curl spray works won­ders under the weave or braids I had the same prob­lem and now I wear sew ins all the time.

J Alyssa
I love weaves and wigs, and I make and install them myself. My hair start­ed shed­ding pret­ty bad­ly when I moved away from home to go to col­lege. I was used to the Caribbean weath­er, and Tex­as, though hot as fire, lol, was not my trop­i­cal home. Hence I was intro­duced to weaves, quick weaves and wigs. my hair grew right back! I start­ed at shoul­der length, when i shed it became neck length, and grew right back down to bra-strap length! now I’m tran­si­tion­ing from relaxed to nat­u­ral with­out the “big chop” and my my my, weave and braids… Read more »
Isolina
I start­ed my tran­si­tion invol­un­tar­i­ly, but I began real­iz­ing that the relaxed hair and my new growth were clear­ly dif­fer­ent tex­tures. I want­ed my hair to stay long, so I had to fig­ure out how to have an appeal­ing tran­si­tion. My friend intro­duced me to Nutress Hair prod­ucts and I was able to get them to one strong, healthy tex­ture. I used the Nutress Stop Break 2-in-1 sham­poo and con­di­tion­er and the leave in con­di­tion­er. I also used the Nutress Pro­tein Pack for Extreme­ly Dam­aged Hair for pro­tein treat­ments. When I straight­en my hair I use(d) the Nutress Foam Wrap… Read more »
Paula Michelle James

That is awe­some! Thank you for the tip. Do you use a straight­en­ing brush or flat iron?

Pat

I can’t wear corn­rows due to itch­ing so a weave for me would be out of the ques­tion plus I wouldn’t spend my mon­ey on it any­way. I need to have my hair free to wash when­ev­er need­ed and weaves cer­tain­ly wouldn’t help with that cause.

E. Lynnette

I nev­er did the big chop because I didn’t want short hair. I wore braids and twists as I tran­si­tioned. While my hair was still rather staight, I wore par­tial sewins so I could have a part. Now that I am ful­ly nat­u­ral, I wear full sewins as a pro­tec­tive style, leav­ing none of my hair out. I mois­tur­ize my edges 3–4 times a week to make sure they don’t get brit­tle. I am cur­rent­ly try­ing to reach arm pit length (about 6 inch­es longer than my hair was when it was per­med) and sewins are real­ly help­ing.
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Paula Michelle James

Did you use the net? If so, how did you keep the hair under­neath mois­tur­ized? Email me ;Hydrafire547@yahoo.com if you want.

Eat.Style.Play
I wear weaves about 3 times a year, because one i’m still learn­ing how to tame my nat­u­ral hair, and then every few months I get tired of twist­ing every night, wait­ing for my hair to dry, buy­ing a bunch of prod­ucts, and blah blah, and some­times i’m in such a rush that all i want to do is unwrap and go.  I will say that since I have been hav­ing more con­tact with my hair i do miss being about to touch it, wash it with­out all the stuff attached from the weave, and while i do was and trim… Read more »
Paula Michelle James

I just start­ed my tran­si­tion journey.Last April my for­mer creamy crack doc­tor over­processed my hair, but luck­i­ly after 7 months of avoid­ing perms,I have 3 1/2 inch­es of new growth. However,I got my first full sew in. I hate hav­ing to endure this, but with prop­er care and main­te­nance, I’ll be free of weaves in 1 or 2 years. Once I get the length , that I want,I’m done! ??

Dria

I feel your last sen­tence! Tru­ly I do. It will be over! I read this one post on blackhairinformation.com that once you get to a length that you r okay with ur hair even when you have shrink­age and on forth it went… well in a nut­shell thats the rea­son y I am still wear­ing the weaves. I am bet­ter with it then I was com­pared to last year for sure, but still not 100 per­cent com­fort­able. when i get to the length that shrink­age don’t mat­ter its over!

Durelene
I agree with all of the cons. i must say the most frus­trat­ing con is hav­ing hair that is thirsty, itchy and tight. I will add to the con my lat­est weave expe­ri­ence left me with an entire corn­row cut down to 1″ on my crown area. I have been nat­u­ral going on 3 yrs come aug 29 2012 so its a huge con­trast from the rest of my hair. luck­i­ly it is in the crown area i can cov­er it up with the rest of my hair but it sad­dens me to see that por­tion when i style, wash and… Read more »
Dria

Defin­tet­ly can’t stop wear­ing wigs! thats anoth­er CON for sure lol. I’ve been nat­u­ral for 3 yrs this June. I have worn my own hair two months last yr.. and none so far this this yr. what can i do to stop this mad­ness?! Please help!

Eat.Style.Play

I felt this way for awhile girl, youtube became my best friend, not for styles but more so for hair tips with prod­ucts because the styles meant noth­ing if my hair wasn’t soft and man­agable, but I’m sure your hair looks amaz­ing after 3 years or grow­ing it out! I’m cur­rent­ly obsessed with Qhemets Bio­log­ics for my hair, but I’m some­where in the 4b-c area but when i use that, my hair looks great after twist outs and it takes some time to get used to doing your hair some­times everynight, or every 3 days.

Vonnice
I have been nat­u­ral since July 5 2007. I did a BC twice. The first time was because I need­ed to stop get­ting perms. The sec­ond time because I had post par­tum depres­sion after I had my son and end­ed up los­ing my locs in the front of my hair. I have start­ed get­ting weaves in ear­ly feb­ru­ary and they are work­ing for me…growing very nice­ly and I trim in between weaves and deep con­di­tion. I also make sure that when I wash my weave, I put sham­poo and con­di­tion­er under the braids so that its get­ting to my scalp. [img[/img]
Jordan

I’m afraid of weaves but I wore wigs this fall & win­ter and saw so much growth. next fall i’m going to try u-part wigs & see if i get the same result.

Nae

Hey ladies!

Has any­one men­tioned weave caps, Im a lit­tle skep­ti­cal of a full sew in. How long do weave caps last?

Queen
If weave caps and weave net­ting are the same thing I high­ly rec­om­mend it! Espe­cial­ly for nat­u­ral heads. Not that I have much to com­pare it to but I have a net over may braids. Then the tracks are sewn on to the net. It caus­es the tracks to feel smoother and the sew in to last longer. To me the only draw back for the net­ting is that its a lit­tle hard­er, espe­cial­ly at first, to reach your scalp. You have to work hard­er when wash­ing your hair to reach your scalp. Thus I would rec­om­mend you wash you… Read more »
Kris

i have worn wigs n weaves to repair my hair 4 the past 2 years…i have gone back to nat­u­ral tress­es AND i AM SHOCKED AT HOW EVEN N THICK N HEALTHY MY HAIR GOT! final­ly its all one length! its new n healthy! and OMFG…ITS LONG!! it has­nt grown past my jaw line since foreveeeeeer!

this has been the best thing for my hair after years of relax­ers and negligence..i can­not rec­comend it more

sarah smith

wholesalewigsonline.com high­ly rec­om­mend.. I per­son­al­ly pur­chased a lot of human hair Dou­ble Tape Hair Exten­sions and human hair wigs from wholesalewigsonline.com i got my hair so fast and it is absolute­ly the soft­est, most beau­ti­ful hair i have ever seen it is always smooth and delight­ful, the qual­i­ty of the hair is won­der­ful, this hair is awe­some! the hair was sim­ple to main­tain and i love the nat­u­ral look of it i got tons of com­pli­ments! excel­lent qual­i­ty and dura­bil­i­ty ‚it is easy to work with and main­tain on

T.C. Wright

ooowww! thanks for the web­site

Edwina@FASHION+ART

I’ve worn braids and kinky twists off and on for sev­er­al years now, one or two years at a time, hav­ing it done every 8–10 weeks. My hair would grow like a weed. Since I last took the twists out about two years ago, my nat­u­ral hair has slow­ly bro­ken off and altho still thick and full, it’s not as long. I con­sid­er wear­ing a weave as giv­ing your nat­u­ral hair a much-need­ed rest, tak­ing time out to heal and grow.

Queen
I so appre­ci­at­ed read­ing this post and the com­ments! I am wear­ing my first full weave and though it’s been less than a week it’s been very stress­ful! The whole process cost me a lit­tle more than my income can com­fort­ably allow and I’m think­ing about tak­ing it out. I would love to main­tain this style but the itch­ing is a bitch! I installed my hair this past wednes­day and washed it Sun­day, oiled my scale with one of those appli­ca­tor bot­tles and must have over done it… In less than 10 min I had mas­sive amounts of oil run­ning… Read more »
T.C. Wright

I would sug­gest oils with peper­mint, euca­lyp­tus and/or tea tree…they are very sooth­ing

Try Dr.Miracle’s Fol­li­cle Heal­er Creme…it feel real­ly great! It also has vit­a­mins a,e,c,b3, tea tree and jojoba oil

Also, Dr. Mir­a­cle Hot Gro

Queen

THANKS! I think I will try the fol­li­cle heal­er cre­me :)
I might need to stay away from oils…

k

@ Queen…I had the same issue in the 1st 3 days with the itch­ing and I almost took mine out…I did use the pep­per­mint and tea tree oils to try to relieve it but I just got some­thing long enough and tried to be gen­tle lol.….then it just stopped and I was able to keep it in for 5 weeks.

Queen

K, you are right it has calmed down tremen­dous­ly! Im on week 7 :) I was try­ing to make it for at least 2mo. So Im pret­ty pleased.

T.C. Wright
hon­est­ly ladies, as a styl­ist and a per­son who fan­cies weaes you have to be very vocal with your styl­ist durn­ing the instal­la­tion process! You have to let them know if you feel any pulling…when and if a braid is too tight and so on.  Your styl­ist can not and should not have to take full respon­si­bil­i­ty for your hair. It is your respon­si­bil­i­ty to main­tain the health of your hair while wear­ing a weave. Mois­tur­ize your hair, wash it occa­sion­al­ly. Dont neglect your edges just because you have a weave…massage them a lit­tle at night with a good oil or… Read more »
k

Ok so I just took out my full sew in weave after 5 weeks yes­ter­day only to dis­cov­er my edges have been sev­er­ly dam­aged in some places! The corn­rows were too tight and now I have to start tend­ing to them all over again! While weaves have worked for me in the past due to all the pros list­ed, I think if I have to put one in again, it may be bet­ter I do them myself or with ppl I trust.

T.C. Wright

take a hair, skin and nail vit­a­m­in and use a sham­poo with ker­at­in, pro­tien and or amino acids…or goto a healt store and pur­chase a biot­in shampoo…hopefully it will help you regrow your hair.

k

Thanks! already start­ed mas­sag­ing cas­tor oil, pep­per­mint oil and tea tree oil into the areas…have my hair vit­a­mins and treat­ing my edges gen­tly!

Mara

I’ve nev­er worn a weave but when I ini­tial­ly went nat­u­ral, I wore braids all through the win­ter. I still con­di­tioned and main­tained the braids and when I took the braids out each time, my hair was still healthy. I have locs now so I can’t real­ly do a weave or braids or what­ev­er. As long as you don’t fall into the year-long weave trap, it makes sense to give your hair a “break” every once in a while

tenisha

I’d have a style in for the win­ter right now if it wasn’t so expen­sive

Maya

Get you some weave and some youtube tuto­ri­als and do it your­self!!! I learned and have done two of my own this win­ter sea­son alone. This pic I used 7 dol­lar hair from Sally’s Beau­ty Sup­ply. Didn’t think it would work but came out well so I did it again and the hair was only 12 dol­lars the sec­ond time. It is DIY time. No one has mon­ey. But I’m on col­lege so I real­ly don’t even have access to some­one who can do my kind of hair in this tiny town. Pow­er to you!!
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JJ

What curl pat­tern hair did you use for the sec­ond pic, where you have the glass­es on? I love it!!

Farrah

Has any­one tried cro­chet weaves at all? I feel that it just might be ten times bet­ter than a sew-in weave.I have one in right now and I absolute­ly love it. This is my fist time ever wear­ing a weave and I will be doing it again.

Carly
I just took my cro­chet braids out and I loved it! The braids weren’t as tight, the hair doesn’t pull at your nat­u­ral hair as much, and your own hair is more acces­si­ble. I noticed when I removed my braids, my hair was still mois­tur­ized and I kept them in for a mon­th! I’m in the process of look­ing for anoth­er type of hair to use for my next cro­chet braiding/weave exper­i­ment. If you have any sug­ges­tions, please swing them my way. Anoth­er bonus is how easy it is to put in. My best friend did my hair and I… Read more »
Royalle

I have cro­chet braids in now. They are won­der­ful! Just as Car­ly stat­ed, it cost me about $10 and I put them in myself. It took me about 2 hours after my corn­rows were in. I high­ly rec­om­mend it, I will be cleans­ing my scalp with witch hazel and oil­ing my braids. I want to keep them in for 3–4 weeks, then try anoth­er type of hair.

mimi

The smell is one of the biggest rea­sons i wont ever wear a weave.

T.C. Wright

smell should only be a prob­lem if you are not prop­er­ly main­tain­ing and wash­ing your hair

Elora

I have nev­er worn one and I mite con­sid­er it but I hate the star­i­o­types about “weaves and Black wom­en” (even though we all know white wom­en wear them to…) My in opin­ion if I wear a weave I would want it to look real. I think I’v been trau­ma­tized from see­ing so many bad ones.

Island Chic

Im 19 and i have nev­er worn weave/ braids or exten­sions of any kind…not because I don’t like them or wat­ev­er, but because i always had a lot of hair, so I’d just get my own hair braid­ed

but i will try some braids one of the­se days… let my hair rest for a while… and grow

alexandria williams

I have been wigs for awhile now. I love them! They have helped so much while I con­tin­ued to train for triathlons. I change my wig based on my hair tex­ture and length. I want them to look nat­u­ral right! If it’s a half wig I let my hair out in the front and push the wig back.. Can’t tell where my hair starts or stop!
Oh I am the one on the right. We have lots of pho­tos and tuto­ri­als on wigs. check them out at http://www.sportyafros.com
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T.C. Wright

cute!!! great pic…i will defi­nate­ly check out the site

Makunda

Dont know why pic is show­ing up this large pic is acual­ly sm sor­ry gals:(

Makunda
I have been nat­u­ral for 13 months and have used weaves for a pro­tec­tive style. I was nat­u­ral from birth to 19yrs old. I had dread­locks. At 19 I got my 1st perm. Now Im 30 yrs old and this is my 3rd time goin nat­u­ral. Im going to stick with it. I believe the weaves that I was get­ting done from the salons were too tight such as braids and sew ins etc. I have expe­ri­ence alope­cia. So far I have seen some hair growth in the areas. Since being nat­u­ral I have only worn cro­chet braids which I… Read more »
deb

I like the weave in this pic. For weaves where a small amount of hair is left out, that part can become thin if you use heat too much to keep it straight.
the flip­side of weaves (and braids) is that you can become depen­dent on them and one can avoid doing the impor­tant work necce­sary to learn and appre­ci­ate their real hair.

T.C. Wright

I total­ly agree with you on that deb!

T.C. Wright
Get­ting a weave as a pro­tec­tive style IS NOT!!! an invi­ta­tion to neglect your hair…your hair still needs to be oil atleast once or twist a week(perferably a light oil).…applying a cream base mois­tur­ize to you hair­line night­ly can pre­vent break­age. The longest a weave should stay in your hair is 2–3 mon­th with wash­ing atleast once a mon­th, which means you have to pur­chase qual­i­ty hair that can be washed and wont tan­gle. Most weaves look great after a wash and blowdry. It’s looks fuller and more nat­u­ral. Most impor­tant­ly, choose a styl­ist that cares about the health and… Read more »
Vinnie-Eve

I’ve nev­er worn weaves and I’m 18. I don’t think I can deal with hav­ing some­thing sewn through my hair or what­ev­er, to me it seems like a hat that you can’t take off when you want. Besides I used to neglect my hair when It was in braids, no doubt I’d neglect it when its in a weave.

E

This came at a good time…I’m only a mon­th natural…but i’ve been wear­ing weaves since I was like 17yrs. Old. So why not while natural…i’m look­ing to put one in when I get to that awk­ward stage…not long & not short. If any­one knows of any qual­i­ty hsir or youtu­bers I should check out…please let me know.

Ella

Hey are you in the US or the UK?

Sash

I would rec­om­mend Mschan­da, teased­black­pearlz, thomasadri­an­na, and can­dytt. For Bss hair info I would watch jouelz’s video on how to buy hair at the Bss.

Cassandra

Sor­ry, what’s BSS? Id love to explore! Im alter­nat­ing between weaves and braids just so that I can get to my scalp and hair more freely. I apply cocoanut oil to my hair and scalp. Should I switch to a dif­fer­ent oil? Should I include a leave in con­di­tion­er as well?

Danni D

Sor­ry it’s a mon­th lat­er, but fyi BSS is the acronym for Beau­ty Sup­ply Store. Hope that helps. :-)

ruth maccarhty

Weaves real­ly helps my hair to be very very thick and grow healthy, my hair dresser nev­er tight the root so I nev­er had prob­lems of tem­po­rary alope­cia. Sec­ond­ly I always main­tain my grow­ing hair, mois­tur­iz­ing it and wash­ing it with a wet tow­el reg­u­lar­ly.
then I keep weaves for max 4–6 weeks.
for­tu­nate­ly my hair­dresser is not expen­sive then I nor­mal­ly like using cheap weaves hence I don’t keep them for long time!
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ambi

I con­cur with every­thing you said, weaves have been a big help to me over the years, I use them spar­ing­ly and give my hair a two week break if I’m get­ting back to back weave, 

It’s all in how often you put them in, and how you take care of your hair under­neath, I too do 4 to 6 weeks max

Anisa

Very inter­est­ing, Weaves don’t work for me, my scalp gets itchy and with track weaves, I hate that I can’t manip­u­late the style much. How­ev­er my sis­ters hair flour­ish­es under weaves, so may­be it’s dif­fer­ent expe­ri­ence for every­one.

I would also like to see the pro’s and cons of braids, if it has already been done, paste the link please.

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