Grow­ing up in the 80’s and 90’s I learned very ear­ly on that being Hait­ian wasn’t exact­ly the thing to be.  When my fam­i­ly moved to a new town, my old­er broth­er and I sim­ply hid it. Nobody asked, so we didn’t tell. Then it all began to unrav­el. My third grad­er teacher assigned a fam­i­ly tree dia­gram which forced me to reveal our her­itage  I recall com­ing home from school that day feel­ing dread as I told my old­er broth­er (by two years) that the jig was up. The tears came quick­ly, from both us, as we under­stood all too well what it would mean to reveal that we were Hait­ian. The teas­ing would be bru­tal, but tol­er­a­ble. Feel­ing ostra­cized was what we feared the most.

But then we grew up, and like most peo­ple, the very thing we were teased about as chil­dren became the thing we cher­ished with the upmost pride. We embraced our her­itage, and slow­ly the larg­er West-Indi­an com­mu­ni­ty began to accept us. Gain­ing this accep­tance, how­ev­er, came at a price. While I had always heard fam­i­ly mem­bers speak with dis­dain about Black Amer­i­cans, it wasn’t until I was a teenag­er when I learned that this us vs. them men­tal­i­ty spanned across West-Indi­an cul­tures. When I’d hear West-Indi­ans attribut­ing cer­tain stereo­types to Black Amer­i­cans,  I found myself nod­ding in agree­ment.  We were dif­fer­ent, I insist­ed. We  were edu­cat­ed. Our chil­dren were bet­ter behaved. We were hard-work­ing. Our food tast­ed bet­ter. African Amer­i­cans gave us all a bad name, and while we would befriend them in pub­lic, in pri­vate, we’d deride them for being stereo­typ­i­cal.

I car­ried this belief with me to col­lege. I was even proud when white peo­ple would praise me for being dif­fer­ent from what they’d imag­ined. My French last name was also a crowd-pleas­er. I ate it all up with a spoon. My false pride, how­ev­er,  came to an abrupt halt towards the end of my fresh­man year when one of my white dorm-mates told me to, “Go back to Africa.” I was stunned. Sure­ly, she couldn’t mean me? I had the per­fect­ly straight hair. I dressed well. I made the Dean’s list. I spoke prop­er­ly. How could she, in a moment of anger, reduce me to being a black face just like any oth­er? I was dif­fer­ent. Wasn’t I? It was a hard les­son, but she woke me up good and prop­er. I’ve nev­er been the same and I’m proud that I did not go into adult­hood car­ry­ing that load of self-hatred with me.

Recent­ly, Huff­in­g­ton Post writer , who is of Cameroon­ian her­itage, penned an open let­ter to African immi­grants, urg­ing them to not fall vic­tim to the same belief sys­tem.  She writes:

White Amer­i­cans will say you are bet­ter than Amer­i­can blacks, but please do not fall for this trap. You will be told you behave bet­ter, work hard­er, and are more edu­cat­ed than Amer­i­can blacks. You will be tempt­ed to agree and will some­times want to shout, “YES, I’M NOT LIKE THEM, WE AFRICANS ARE DIFFERENT!” Just don’t…don’t even think it.

The praise of your acquired char­ac­ter­is­tic and cul­ture becomes a jus­ti­fi­ca­tion for white Amer­i­cans to per­pet­u­ate dis­crim­i­na­to­ry treat­ments towards Amer­i­can blacks. These state­ments of praise have an under­ly­ing mes­sage of, “If Africans can do so well then sure­ly racism has noth­ing to do with any­thing, there­fore, Amer­i­can Blacks are to be blamed for their con­di­tion in Amer­i­ca”. This prob­lem­at­ic line of rea­son­ing sus­tains cul­tur­al racism. I beg of you, refrain from nod­ding in agree­ment when you receive such faulty praise.

Indeed, West Indi­ans, like the African immi­grants described in Seppou’s let­ter, are guilty of the same mis­deeds. In want­i­ng to carve out a place for our­selves in a soci­ety where being black places you on the bot­tom rung, we have per­pet­u­at­ed the belief that we are bet­ter than our African Amer­i­can coun­ter­parts.

Caribbean cul­ture and African cul­ture are dif­fer­ent than African Amer­i­can cul­ture. But when we cel­e­brate our unique­ness, it should nev­er be to shame African Amer­i­can cul­ture.

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Rishona Campbell
Great piece! My father is Jamaican and my moth­er is African-Amer­i­can. Their rela­tion­ship didn’t last past my tod­dler years, so I grew up with both dynam­ics. I heard the supe­ri­or­i­ty talk from my Jamaican fam­i­ly; although being that we didn’t live in an area with a large West Indi­an pop­u­la­tion, when it came down to it, they were solid­ly a part of the local African-Amer­i­can com­mu­ni­ty. Being born and raised in the US though, I found no dis­tinc­tion between myself and African-Amer­i­cans; except that I lis­tened to more reg­gae, could under­stand (but didn’t talk) patois, and we ate dif­fer­ent food… Read more »
Emjay Mangual
I am a Black Amer­i­can and I wit­tnessed bla­tant racism by two West Indi­an women. I was at St. Luke’s Roo­sevelt Hos­pi­tal in NYC, with my moth­er, wait­ing to have my cast removed. There were many peo­ple wait­ing to be seen. (White, Black, His­pan­ic, etc..) A mid­dle aged black man was upset, because he was wait­ing for a long time, while oth­ers who sup­pos­ed­ly came after him, went in before him. So he voiced his aggres­sions towards the women. (Both nurs­es at the ortho­pe­dic Dept.) Well when he walked away after more than a few choice words, the racial slurs… Read more »
Colleen Birchett
Have you read the “Willy Lynch Let­ter” late­ly? The basic prin­ci­ples in it may be able to be applied here. Are we not being divid­ed from one anoth­er while inter­ests of glob­al­iza­tion and neo­colo­nial­ism are dis­tract­ing us from any invest­ment in what hap­pens to our moth­er coun­tries and the con­ti­nent of Africa? Once we start play­ing the “bet­ter than thou” and “excep­tion­al­ism” games, we pass this down to future gen­er­a­tions. Then we run the risk of los­ing every­thing we have. Isn’t it inter­est­ing that the same cor­po­rate inter­ests that divide Black peo­ple are unsuc­cess­ful in divid­ing peo­ple of Jew­ish descent… Read more »
This is a good mes­sage. I iden­ti­fy as Black, first, because it con­nects me with my melan­i­nat­ed broth­ers and sis­ters in the Amer­i­cans, Cen­tral & South Amer­i­ca, the Caribbean, and the moth­er­land con­ti­nent, Africa. We were all enslaved or ruled through colo­nial­ism. Those of us out­side Africa, one of our ances­tors was kid­napped and put on a slave ship and just dropped off at dif­fer­ent ports. My her­itage is Cre­ole (New Orleans, free peo­ple of col­or) with known begin­nings in Haiti & The Domini­can Repub­lic and Lyon, France. I am a for­tu­nate “Amer­i­can black” in that our fam­i­ly was able… Read more »
Blue Bell

you do know cre­oles from Haiti and Domini­can Repub­lic who came to Amer­i­ca were slave own­ers escap­ing the revolution…yes Cre­oles in the Caribbean owned blacks as slaves…

What is Creole(s)? Is it a per­son, a lan­guage or a cul­ture? If I may, let me explain. The whole of the Caribbean has a Cre­ole cul­ture and can be regard­ed as cre­oles. The cul­ture is sim­ply a mix­ture of dif­fer­ent cul­tures using a com­mon Euro­pean lan­guage in a bro­ken form, which includes words and terms from oth­er African, Indige­nous and Asian lan­guages. So we have Hait­ian Cre­ole lan­guage, which to a large extent is a bro­ken form of French with a heavy influ­ence of African lan­guages. St. Lucians also speak a bro­ken form of french mixed with oth­er lan­guages,… Read more »
Linda Beamon

Awe­some state­ment of truth.…Thank you!

Khalid Henriques

Great post. *applause* you won­der­ful­ly artic­u­lat­ed my exact sen­ti­ments.

A more in depth knowl­edge of our ori­gins is what is need­ed. I live in Eng­land par­ents are from the Caribbean. I also have a ton of fam­i­ly liv­ing in Amer­i­ca as well as Cana­da. I’m always drawn to my peo­ple no mat­ter which cor­ner of the earth they hap­pen to reside. I under­stand that there are cul­tur­al dif­fer­ences among us but I also know there are many things we have in com­mon. Let’s not for­get that this dis­dain for one anoth­er start­ed with the WM. It was his mis­sion to dis­con­nect us from each oth­er and need­less to say… Read more »

…we have a lot more in com­mon than .not. If our fea­tures and skin col­or is one shade dark­er than theirs, rest assure they ALREADY made a choice to ensure they know we are black no mat­ter what part of Africa a per­son is from. Skin col­or should NOT be an issue these days but sad­ly it STILL is.


The civ­il war and geno­cide in Rwan­da was on per­ceived dif­fer­ences between two tribes. Yet if you looked at pic­tures of them they would look the same sim­ply because there was a lot of inter­mar­riage between them.

Peo­ple who believe they are bet­ter than anoth­er group who have the same skin colour as them obvi­ous­ly have nev­er heard of the WM’s trick of divide and con­quer. It was used to keep slaves of dif­fer­ent main eth­nic­i­ties and reli­gions from join­ing togeth­er in their colonies to over throw them.


True and I am well aware of what you are saying.…i.know it steams from slav­ery. I am pri­or mil­i­tary, read books, and have too many over­seas friends.not to under­stand col­orism and racism…plus I have expe­ri­enced this at some lev­el.

Well, as a Niger­ian Amer­i­can, my take on it is this. Many Amer­i­cans, because of the lack of expo­sure to African and Caribbean cul­tures, fail to see black peo­ple beyond any­thing but black amer­i­can. Com­pared to, say Lon­don, where there are many black peo­ple from many dif­fer­ent coun­tries, l stereo­types applied to a black amer­i­can will not be the same as those applied to a Jamaican, a ghan­ian, an Ethiopi­an, and a Hait­ian. But in Amer­i­ca they are. Sure, some­one walk­ing down the street doesn’t know I am of niger­ian her­itage, but that doesn’t change my upbring­ing, val­ues, and cul­ture.… Read more »
Journey T.
I don’t think Africans and West Indi­ans know how much Black Amer­i­cans are aware of their per­ceived supe­ri­or­i­ty and how much it has hurt them. We are not at all inter­est­ed in col­lab­o­rat­ing with either at all, but both are con­stant­ly in our cul­tur­al space try­ing to ben­e­fit or enrich them­selves. I noticed this first at Howard Uni­ver­si­ty, where­by many rude­ly couldn’t wait to tell you how much bet­ter than were than Amer­i­can blacks, but were all attend­ing on schol­ar­ships meant for black Amer­i­cans while den­i­grat­ing black Amer­i­cans at every chance. Both groups ben­e­fit heav­i­ly from our his­to­ry, cul­ture and expe­ri­ence… Read more »
It is all about colo­nial­ism and slav­ery. When I was in col­lege, I worked for the sum­mer one year, in Lon­don. There, some of the White Eng­lish peo­ple at my job talked against the Black immi­grants from their for­mer colonies who had immi­grat­ed there to find jobs. They told me that I talked bet­ter worked hard­er, etc., etc., etc. They said they just gen­er­al­ly liked African Amer­i­cans bet­ter and that African Amer­i­cans were smarter, and were not “hea­thens”. But I saw it as the same old rou­tine. — pit­ting one group against anoth­er, due to the dif­fer­ences in the his­tor­i­cal… Read more »

If cul­ture seems to be a divid­ing fac­tor, there MUST be some­thing else that binds us togeth­er. To be hon­est, I had peo­ple from oth­er col­ors, creeds, and reli­gions help me more in my life than my own cul­ture. We need to look past cul­ture and col­or and see the heart of a per­son.


Fun­ny how they(Europeans) more or less got along when they decid­ed the fate of our African Ances­tors. The real rea­son they don’t get along is greed, they have a his­to­ry of fight­ing for dom­i­nance over land, min­er­als, you name it, all of which doesn’t belong to them. So on he sur­face it would seem that they hate the very sight of one anoth­er but trust me they know when it’s nec­es­sary to come togeth­er.


Your com­par­i­son to Lon­don, is inac­cu­rate tho, NYC has many more blacks and from dif­fer­ent coun­tries. Peo­ple assume you’re Black Amer­i­can because we have long his­to­ry in the US ( 400) yrs unlike Blacks in Lon­don who arrived only after WWII Final­ly, you don’t like us, but you do have to respect us bc w/out US you couldn’t be here.

kb, it’s inter­est­ing you state that non-African-Amer­i­cans couldn’t be in Amer­i­ca if it wasn’t for the sac­ri­fice of African-Amer­i­cans. Inter­est­ing. First of all, the state­ment negates the West Indi­ans who were part of the strug­gle for black free­dom in this coun­try. Many of your his­tor­i­cal lead­ers actu­al­ly had West Indi­an her­itage. For exam­ple, Mal­colm X (Grena­di­an moth­er), Stok­ley Carmichael (Trinida­di­an), Mar­cus Gar­vey (Jamaican), Louis Farakhan (Bar­ba­di­an or “Bajan”/Jamaican par­ents), Col­in Pow­ell (Jamaican parent­age), Shirley Chisolm (Bajan par­ents), and many, many more. As an aside, even the Hait­ian rev­o­lu­tion had a Pan-African ele­ment: one of the three “Hait­ian” free­dom fight­ers was… Read more »
Journey T.

But if you can even admit that you ben­e­fit from black Amer­i­cans when you get here while car­ry­ing thoughts of supe­ri­or­i­ty how would you expect black Amer­i­cans would treat or feel about you?

Black Amer­i­cans are ful­ly aware that you think you are supe­ri­or. But since we know you are not, it doesn’t phase us we just don’t want you hang­ing out in our cul­tur­al space or ben­e­fit­ting from us. That is all.…

Anya W

Please see the Civ­il Rights Act of 1964, which made it ille­gal to dis­crim­i­nate against some­one not only based on their race, but also their nation­al ori­gin. This is a law that would not exist with­out African Amer­i­cans. Grant­ed, immi­gra­tion was not the focus of the Civ­il Rights Move­ment, but our fight did, in fact, huge­ly ben­e­fit immi­grants to the Unit­ed States.


Actually.……Black Amer­i­cans did fight for more Black immi­grants to come here…that was a key point.…..and the immi­gra­tion reform act of 196? came about because of the civ­il rights movement…before that the whites in pow­er were very sys­tem­at­ic in only allow­ing, for the most part, white Euro­pean immigration.…The civ­il rights move­ment changed that and it ben­e­fit­ed all groups.

Journey T.

And we deeply regret hav­ing done so.…


Thanks for respond­ing, African Amer­i­cans don’t influ­ence immi­gra­tion pol­i­cy, by the atti­tudes behind them. Our civ­il rights’ strug­gles, and our sub­se­quent social, eco­nom­ic gains, have made the US palat­able for Africans, Lati­nos, Asians, etc. Our fight for improved treat­ment pro­duced an envi­ron­ment that has improved social and eco­nom­ic access for every­one.

Hi kb. Glad you respond­ed. You’d be sur­prised that immi­gra­tion laws have not been great­ly impact­ed by the civ­il rights strug­gle. This is why Hait­ian refugees are turned around at sea by the Coast Guard (to even die on the high seas) while most­ly white Cubans are allowed to stay under the “wet foot dry foot” pol­i­cy. White Euro­peans are recruit­ed to come here, while blacks join an immi­gra­tion lot­tery sys­tem that can take over 20 years to com­plete. White immi­grant fam­i­lies migrate togeth­er while black fam­i­lies are bro­ken up with par­ents leav­ing their chil­dren behind for some­times a decade… Read more »

I like Lon­don! Awe­some Lon­don Fog coats and clocks! :)


For your infor­ma­tion Eng­land has always been mul­ti cul­tur­al. Yes there was mass migra­tion after WW2 from the Caribbean and lat­er Africa but Blacks along with oth­er eth­nic groups have always been present not just in Eng­land but Europe as a whole. Unfor­tu­nate­ly the British schools do not teach us this.


I did know that actu­al­ly, Liv­er­pool was a slave port but You real­ly can’t com­pare Amer­i­can Black His­to­ry to the Black his­to­ry in the UK tho. Amer­i­can Blacks have been in the US for longer time and in greater num­bers


or there in the UK. The peri­od after the WWII that saw the heavy migra­tion to the UK is call the Wind Rush peri­od. UK need­ed labour to rebuild her coun­try and she looked to her colonies.


You real­ly can’t com­pare Amer­i­can Black His­to­ry to the Black his­to­ry in the UK tho. Amer­i­can Blacks have been in the US for longer time and in greater num­bers

I’m glad you said this, because it’s so true. As much as it sad­dens me, that’s sim­ply how human nature is. I don’t live in Amer­i­ca, but I am an East African liv­ing in South Africa and you can see the exact same behav­iour here. Elders in the EA com­mu­ni­ty will say that South African blacks are wilder, more promis­cu­ous, lazy, une­d­u­cat­ed, basi­cal­ly echo­ing what white peo­ple say. Peo­ple in this coun­try will hire for­eign­ers, most com­mon­ly Zim­bab­weans for jobs, because they are “more reli­able”, “less like­ly to steal” or what­ev­er else rea­son peo­ple will some­one would come up with.… Read more »
So you’re com­par­ing Lon­don, a place where a person’s par­ents or grand­par­ents are from an exact coun­try and still pos­sess their African name and cul­ture to Amer­i­ca where most of us have the last name what can be assumed to be of a slave mas­ter and first and mid­dle names that are Eng­lish, Greek, French and more and unless the slave mas­ters kept excel­lent records, we wouldn’t have a chance in he’ll to trace our ances­tors to a spe­cif­ic coun­try. Yep! Def­i­nite­ly the same. *sar­casm* Black Amer­i­can peo­ple hold onto the idea of being black so bad­ly because what else… Read more »

I to include your his­to­ry with any­body of the same eth­nic­i­ty as you. Black his­to­ry is any his­to­ry in the world where your race had a hand in. This is not a nation­al­i­ty thing. Its an eth­nic­i­ty thing. I cel­e­brate black his­to­ry around the globe as my own. I could.never lim­it it to a nation
A nation did­nt birth me


but many amer­i­cans lit­er­al­ly lack expo­sure to black amer­i­can cul­ture and even inter­ac­tions with black amer­i­cans are fuck­ing lim­it­ed.

Windy Cat

Are you new to the U.S.? Many Amer­i­cans ‘do not’ lack expo­sure to Black Amer­i­ca, no not in 2015. Black peo­ple are every­where in the U.S. Oth­er races/ethnicities choose to not acknowl­edge Black people/Black cul­ture because of racist views and his­to­ry dat­ing back hun­dreds of years. Peo­ple were told igno­rant bad things about Black peo­ple and igno­rant stu­pid peo­ple believed it (still do).


I agree. I just wish in Amer­i­cans as a whole had a bet­ter under­stand­ing of REAL African Amer­i­can cul­ture (not this rap and hip hop cul­ture that every­one believes is the extent of it) as well as african and car­ribean and even black his­pan­ic cul­tures (heck, we can even through in aus­tralian abo­rig­ines) so that peo­ple would not be so small mind­ed as to what it means to be black.


This arti­cle just went straight over your head.

THIS!!! I was born in Nige­ria and lived there for most of my for­ma­tive years. I am also a nat­u­ral­ized Amer­i­can and have now lived in the U.S. for longer than I ever did in my coun­try. I iden­ti­fy as Niger­ian Amer­i­can because no mat­ter how Amer­i­can I have become, much of who I am today was shaped by my expe­ri­ences as a Niger­ian, first and fore­most, and I still main­tain strong ties to my cul­ture. Yes, that her­itage DOES make me very dif­fer­ent from Black Amer­i­cans. But it doesn’t make me some kind of spe­cial, mag­i­cal African snowflake. At… Read more »
I nev­er said being of direct African descent made me spe­cial, I said it doesn’t make me have the same cul­ture and his­to­ry as a black amer­i­can whose his­to­ry in Amer­i­ca can be traced back to the 1500–1600s when mine can only be traced to the late 90s. Obvi­ous­ly I know I’m black and that soci­ety will place my black­ness above my being Niger­ian. What I’m say­ing is that doesn’t mean I should dis­re­gard my entire cul­ture and ances­try sim­ply because small mind­ed peo­ple have only 1 idea of what it means to be black. I was raised in pre­dom­i­nant­ly… Read more »
Journey T.

But where in this arti­cle did it say that? This arti­cle was about feel­ing supe­ri­or to black Amer­i­cans. Which is your prob­lem, not ours…,

Journey T.

But we already know you don’t have the same his­to­ry so what is your point here? You want to be con­sid­ered the same when it comes to black Amer­i­can resources, though, which makes you an exploiter and user, no?


I once liked a Niger­ian girl and she said, bare in mind I am Niger­ian. I have no knowl­edge what that was but I left here alone. LOLOL. You see, I am West Indi­an and when peo­ple talk like that the first thing comes to mind is Obeah. LMAO.


I under­stood your post, but my point was just that, all of the oth­er stuff you brought up–identifying with being Niger­ian instead of just black and etc, had ZERO to do with what the arti­cle was about.

Angela Booker

Yemi well said!

Esha Fowlin

it real­ly did lol wow


The Point Is To Be Kum­baya. It Seems You’re Say­ing Thanks, But No Thanks. Thanks For Pay­ing The Price, But Hold Up Dnt Pass Me The Bill. Smh. Dnt Be Like The Chi­nese, His­pan­ics, or Euro­peans. That Have Self Hate. Be Black ! Be African !

Hmmmm.……sick of this top­ic but I’ll bite anyway.…It’s obvi­ous Caribbeans and Africans look at Black Amer­i­cans through the racist white lenses.…and some seem to NEED to so call look down on Black Americans…they NEED to…but I don’t think Black Amer­i­cans care because hate to tell them they’re fool­ing them­selves because 75% of Black Amer­i­cans are in the mid­dle class and Black Amer­i­cans are some of the wealth­i­est and most edu­cat­ed Blacks in the world.…blah blah blah.……Can they say the same.….and I do not dis­like Caribbeans or Africans…that would be dumb to dis­like peo­ple I don’t know who look like me… Read more »
Ganadora Loteria

And black Amer­i­cans don’t look at non-US black peo­ple through the racist white lens??? I would address every­thing else in your post but it is clear how unin­formed and igno­rant you are.

I know I should stop read­ing these com­ments, but I’m so curi­ous about what my people’s thoughts are on these top­ics. I keep pick­ing up on a theme of assim­i­la­tion, though. Ques­tion: why are some of my African-Amer­i­can sis­ters minimizing/ignoring/denying the dif­fer­ences of their African and Caribbean coun­ter­parts? Let’s use Africa as an exam­ple: 54 coun­tries, tribes and lan­guages in the 1000s. The diver­si­ty in one African coun­try is vast, and none of it is like African-Amer­i­can cul­ture. Why would any­one think it was? They are 1000s of miles away, many with­out con­tact to African-Amer­i­cans or oth­er dias­po­ran Africans.  Now,… Read more »
I know this and I know Africans and West Indi­ans are diverse in cul­ture, lan­guage and every­thing else that makes up a people…so are Black Amer­i­cans. .…I have been to the Caribbean and Africa.…I’m not ignorant.…what I and oth­ers are argu­ing against, and maybe I am inter­pret­ing this incor­rect­ly, is the dis­gust­ing assump­tion by you all that Black Amer­i­cans are not edu­cat­ed, all in jail, do not have or come from peo­ple, all live in slums, lis­ten to rap or what­ev­er oth­er shit­ty RACIST con­clu­sions you have con­vinced your­selves of con­cern­ing Black Americans…Black Amer­i­cans are educated/want high­er edu­ca­tion, want and… Read more »
Felina Femenina
Oops. Have to repost my com­ment because I acci­den­tal­ly edit­ed, and BGLH doesn’t seem to ever approve twice. Shrugs. Black peo­ple in the U.S. are more edu­cat­ed and more fre­quent­ly found in the mid­dle class, yes, but what you for­get is that Caribbeans, Africans and black Latin Amer­i­cans in the U.S. are count­ed among the num­bers of edu­cat­ed and mid­dle class black peo­ple in the U.S. If you do a Google search on the per­cent­age of for­eign black stu­dents vs. native-born black stu­dents attend­ing Amer­i­can uni­ver­si­ties, you’ll see many estab­lished, respectable pub­li­ca­tions report that the num­ber of for­eign-born blacks in… Read more »
Journey T.
What is your point about Ivy Leagues though. Black Smeru­cans don’t think you are noth­ing if you don’t go to one. There are thou­sands that go to HBCUs and none feel infe­ri­or to West Indi­ans or Africans.  I received all three degrees from HBCUs and a doc­tor­ate from Howard and is dint and will nev­er feel infe­ri­or to you, if I had none. And if you are in these Uvey Leagues, please know that you obvi­ous­ly bypassed every Uni­ver­si­ty in the West Indies and Africa, cor­rect? Why is that? Your peo­ple and cul­ture are supe­ri­or, right? Lis­ten, we are nev­er going to… Read more »
Esha Fowlin

its real­ly not that dif­fer­ent and excel­lent point.

Ganadora Loteria

It real­ly is very dif­fer­ent.

Felina Femenina
Black peo­ple in the U.S. are more edu­cat­ed and more fre­quent­ly found in the mid­dle class, yes, but what you are for­get­ting is that Caribbeans, Africans and black Latin Amer­i­cans in the U.S. are count­ed among those num­bers of edu­cat­ed and mid­dle class black peo­ple in the U.S. If you do a Google search on the per­cent­age of for­eign black stu­dents vs. native-born black stu­dents attend­ing Amer­i­can uni­ver­si­ties, you’ll see many estab­lished, respectable pub­li­ca­tions report that the num­ber of for­eign-born blacks in Amer­i­can uni­ver­si­ties far out­paces the num­ber of native-born ones. 18% of U.S.-born blacks are col­lege grad­u­ates. 40.9% of… Read more »
Journey T.

They are very selec­tive in who gets to the US. Let’s com­pare all of your peo­ple in your coun­try and here with all black Amer­i­cans.

I can’t believe you are here try­ing to argue that you are supe­ri­or and then won­der why you are hat­ed.

If you go to both Jamaica and Bugerua right now you would be straight up embar­rassed by what you see, but you already know this. Dis­gust­ing with deep feel­ings of infe­ri­or­i­ty that you could not make it in a Black Coun­try. Peri­od…

Steven C Scott
How dif­fer­ent? Very dif­fer­ent and not so much. My par­ents are Jamaican so can only speak on that. But Afri­a­cans for one come from dif­fer­ent coun­tries so by that nature there are many dif­fer­ences. From a Jamaican per­spec­tive, our lan­guage (british eng­lish and a dialect), our food, our dance, our reli­gions much more diverse chris­tian­i­ty and more impor­tant­ly we are a mixed peo­ple. I am not sure how you can­not think there is a dif­fer­ence. I mean heck I see a dif­fer­ence in a black amer­i­can that grew up in Den­ver, CO and one from Ft. Laud­erdale, FL. To be… Read more »

Hon­est­ly, this divi­sion is some­thing I don’t under­stand. When non-Amer­i­can Blacks come to Amer­i­ca they are able to enjoy cer­tain things because of the strug­gle of Black Amer­i­cans. The accep­tance that many non-Amer­i­can Black peo­ple receive from whites is quite con­di­tion­al. The same way non-Amer­i­can Black peo­ple deride Black Amer­i­cans in pri­vate, white peo­ple do the same to you also.

Janet Holmes

They do the same thing to us.

Felina Femenina

Don’t for­get that West Indi­ans were in the U.S. and played a major role in the Civ­il Rights strug­gle in this coun­try.


Mar­cus Gar­vey for one.

Tell me about it. I remem­ber vis­it­ing New Orleans back in 1996 and on one occa­sion I approached a WM on the street to ask him the time. Before I could even open my mouth he told me he didn’t have any spare change and hur­ried­ly walked past me. Black peo­ple no mat­ter where you’re from, we are all seen in the same light. Mas­sa might give you a pass for your obe­di­ent behav­iour but he knows exact­ly his motives for doing so. All he is doing is car­ry­ing on the works of his fore­fa­thers by pit­ting us against each… Read more »

Well, when the klu Klux Klan enters the room. We will all see who is left stand­ing. Any­thing oher than white will be hunt­ed and hung. Smh

Janet Holmes

So true. Those cave beast is fill with pure hate

Steven C Scott

Not sure why you would take offense, sounds like SS is say­ing the same as you. ‘quite con­di­tion­al’ NOT uncon­di­tion­al.

Amen!!! I didn’t dis­cov­er Africans and West Indi­ans felt this way until my fresh­man year in col­lege. One of my African friends was rid­ing with me on the bus to the gro­cery store when a loud­er group of black col­lege stu­dents got on. Then he stat­ed to me, an African Amer­i­can young woman from Detroit, that this is why he would nev­er a black Amer­i­can. They’re too lazy, irre­spon­si­ble, dis­re­spect­ful, loud, and wild. I stared at him blankly, con­fused by this fool­ish­ness com­ing from his mouth. I tutor you in Calc and get bet­ter grades. As I con­tin­ued to stare… Read more »
reina lockhart

I agreed with your com­ment up until the part about hav­ing “bet­ter grades”. There’s no need for the com­par­i­son. By com­par­ing grades your imply­ing that your eth­nic­i­ty had some­thing to do with your accom­plish­ments and so makes your entire com­ment appear to be hyp­o­crit­i­cal. Oth­er­wise, the guy could ben­e­fit from putting aside his racist lens. Espe­cial­ly since he prof­its from the hard work and his­to­ry of the “black Amer­i­cans” he seems to know so lit­tle of.


You lack read­ing com­pre­hen­sion


How, iron­ic. Clear­ly you’re the one who lacks read­ing com­pre­hen­sion. Not reina. Try again, maybe this time you’ll get it.

reina lockhart
I have no rea­son to believe why I do see­ing as you pro­vid­ed zero expla­na­tion. Every­thing I wrote was the truth. She point­ed out that her race (African amer­i­can) did not hold up to his stereo­type — hence, race was a fac­tor. REASON: I don’t put myself above some­one else just because I got a high­er grade EVEN if I dis­like the per­son and am try­ing to make a point about how race does not indi­cate how a per­son behaves/ per­forms in school. I would be proud of my own accom­plish­ments. Peri­od. Con­de­scend­ing always makes me feel awful no mat­ter… Read more »
Anya W

But the whole point of that state­ment was to empha­size the irony of the man neg­a­tive­ly stereo­typ­ing peo­ple like her, when she — as a mem­ber of the group he’s stereo­typ­ing — is aca­d­e­m­i­cal­ly supe­ri­or to him and actu­al­ly tutors him. Nowhere did she say or imply that that fact made her bet­ter than him. It’s sim­ply the irony of the sit­u­a­tion.


Smart girl


And if you went to his coun­try, you prob­a­bly wouldn’t have safe drink­ing water or depend­able elec­tric­i­ty. A whole coun­try full of “his peo­ple” and the best thing they can do, is get the hell out of it, and come to “our” coun­try, because of our sac­ri­fice. . Your friend need to go back were he came from. 

Ear­ly on in my life I knew Black immi­grant act­ed like this, and nev­er trust­ed them, and always felt black amer­i­ca were fool­ish for accept­ing them.


Wow, a white racist would stand up and clap after read­ing your first para­graph. Great job!!! /s

Journey T.

As he should because you come here and want to be an oppres­sor… we got some­thing for you though…